tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post3203837493355496650..comments2023-10-22T08:57:00.454-04:00Comments on Twelfth Bough: Hunching Toward ArmageddonA. Peasanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-33220338406225865232009-02-03T11:00:00.000-05:002009-02-03T11:00:00.000-05:00Yep, it's a variation of Bush the Bloody's saying ...Yep, it's a variation of Bush the Bloody's saying about terrorism, "You're either with us or against us."<BR/><BR/>And those who dare to resist the Israeli Death Machine tend to have a short half-life.Greg Baconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08110469235589724960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-10899564529895326112009-02-03T09:07:00.000-05:002009-02-03T09:07:00.000-05:00Sick sick sick sick sick.Petras notes, and I note:...Sick sick sick sick sick.<BR/><BR/>Petras notes, and I note:<BR/><BR/>(3) the high degree of internal support among the Jewish electorate for even the most brutal killing fields; <BR/><BR/>The victim narrative seems to overwhelm any sense of remorse.<BR/><BR/>I saw a letter to the editor in the Boston Globe yesterday whining about the poor Israeli children who have to put up with air raid sirens, *as if that is equivalent to Palestinian suffering*. And the sad part is, that in this man's mind, it probably *is* equivalent. It's becoming clearer and clearer that many in Israel, and many who support Israel, have lost all touch with the human race. This 'cause' for the Jewish state has swallowed their entire identity, so there is no piece left to connect with the 'other' -- except in relation to how the 'other' helps or hinders the cause of the Jewish state. For everyone to Israel is either part of the problem or part of the solution, and dealt with accordingly.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-72902734360929726652009-02-03T08:26:00.000-05:002009-02-03T08:26:00.000-05:00All is not lost, there's still some sane people in...All is not lost, there's still some sane people in the world.<BR/><BR/>Good luck trying to snatch these Israeli war criminals off the streets when and they visit some place. Their bodyguards will shoot first and ask no questions later.<BR/><BR/>Al-Sourani is a brave soul, hope his will is up to date.<BR/><BR/><B>86 Israeli war criminals are now wanted by international courts, says Raji Al-Sourani</B><BR/><BR/>SUNDAY, 01 FEBRUARY 2009 02:07<BR/><BR/><I>Palestinian human rights activist Raji Al-Sourani has disclosed Wednesday that at least 86 Israeli military officers were now wanted by a number western courts for their role in the holocaust in the Gaza Strip.<BR/><BR/>In a forum held in this regard in the Egyptian capital Cairo, Sourani accused the European governments of adopting unfair stand over the Israeli massacres in Gaza Strip, opining that such behavior would bring the world back to the " law of the jungle."<BR/><BR/>He said that a number of lawsuits were filed by international human rights organizations against Israeli military officers before courts in Britain, New Zealand, the Netherlands and Spain over their role in the brutal war on Gaza, underlining that 86 of those officers were now wanted by those courts.<BR/><BR/>"The Palestinian human rights organizations will keep on chasing those Israeli war criminals, and they won't forgive or forget what the Israeli occupation army had done in Gaza", Sourani stressed.<BR/><BR/>According to Sourani, the Israeli holocaust in Gaza was the bloodiest and most brutal holocaust in the Israeli occupation history in Palestine, adding that the Palestinian legal groups were relentlessly documenting those crimes to use them against the Israeli officials.</I><BR/><BR/>http://www.daily.pk/world/middle-east/9353-86-israeli-war-criminals-are-now-wanted-by-international-courts-says-raji-al-sourani.html<BR/><BR/>Here's a small sampling from the world's "most moral" army, the IDF. If what they engaged in during the Gazan Massacre aren't war crimes, then the term has no meaning.<BR/><BR/><I>An eyewitness account of the horrors of the aftermath from Barbara Lubin of the Middle East Children’s Alliance (MECA)<BR/><BR/>Out of all the devastation I have seen so far, there is one story in particular that I think the world needs to hear.<B> I met a mother who was at home with her ten children when Israeli soldiers entered the house. The soldiers told her she had to choose five of her children to “give as a gift to Israel.” As she screamed in horror they repeated the demand and told her she could choose or they would choose for her. Then these soldiers murdered five of her children in front of her.</B> The concept of “Jewish morality” is truly dead.</I><BR/><BR/>http://www.daily.pk/world/middle-east/9374-israelis-forced-mother-to-choose-which-of-her-children-would-die.htmlGreg Baconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08110469235589724960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-70436443776852362712009-02-03T07:32:00.000-05:002009-02-03T07:32:00.000-05:00Whatever tension that used to exist between Israel...Whatever tension that used to exist between Israel's real goals (domination) and its public persona (light to the nations) is being resolved toward the real goals. To Marc's point, they were able to keep the appearance of 'reasonableness' going for a long time. To Greg's point, the incentives for doing so are rapidly evaporating. Once they drop the mask, as it were, which is happening before our eyes, they will also abandon all reason. The only thing left will be rage.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-38832180789636778302009-02-03T07:14:00.000-05:002009-02-03T07:14:00.000-05:00... Israeli planners are thinking. And they're alw...<I>... Israeli planners are thinking. And they're always asking themselves, "Must we nuke Iran? Or is there a different way?"</I><BR/><BR/>What Israeli planners are thinking is how to nuke Iran and make it appear like it was some kind of defensive move and not an aggression.<BR/><BR/>They have a need to always appear to be the victim and to use that to garner sympathy from the world.<BR/><BR/>That's why they appear shocked when catching hell from various parts of the world for their latest atrocity.<BR/>They're not faking shock, they are experiencing shock, since in their sick and twisted minds they are they victim and we should be feeling sorry for their actions.<BR/><BR/>They constantly need to have their vanity stroked and when that doesn't happen, it fucks with their psyche.Greg Baconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08110469235589724960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-8611047239899173492009-02-03T01:13:00.000-05:002009-02-03T01:13:00.000-05:00Different Take #1:The IDF looks at the Mid-East mu...Different Take #1:<BR/><BR/>The IDF looks at the Mid-East much like new settlers looked at the American West. <BR/><BR/>But with two huge differences--the Israelis can't outbreed even the Palestinians, much less Iran or Egypt, and they are dependent on others for support, so they can't effectively exterminate their enemies. They must rely on psychological control and clearing ground.<BR/><BR/>But they lost horribly in Lebanon in 06, in Georgia in 08, and it really shook them. To Israel, the Gaza massacre was a demonstration that they've still "got it." <BR/><BR/>Yet the geopolitical dynamics are horrible for Israel, and their tactical edge is rapidly eroding. They couldn't take a single Lebanese city and hold it at night. They had tanks knocked out, wounded soldiers died because they couldn't be evacked by helo. Iran defeated Israel in Lebanon by Hezbollah proxy, and it is difficult to look 20 years down the road and imagine an Israel which hasn't been decisively defeated. All they can do is try to postpone their reckoning.<BR/><BR/>Gaza was a message to Iran, who they know can't be successfully attacked with conventional weapons, nor controlled long-term without massive US help, it was a message to Arabs, but most of all the Gaza message was addressed to themselves.<BR/><BR/>A wargaming friend once asked me what the military solution was to the Iranian threat. I thought about it hard, and after a while said, "Make Israel an enemy and crush it." Although very down on Zionists (and Jews), he found that answer horrifying. I responded, "You asked me for a military solution. That's what it is, and it's least resource-intensive."<BR/><BR/>While not disagreeing with anything in your post, it's important to know what Israeli planners are thinking. And they're always asking themselves, "Must we nuke Iran? Or is there a different way?"MarcLordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17036432624426967890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-75998159949804867752009-02-02T20:48:00.000-05:002009-02-02T20:48:00.000-05:00Well, that's noble. Personally, I am done with the...Well, that's noble. Personally, I am done with these nutcases. I'm ready for personality testing, the whole nine yards...but that's just me. As I frequently note, I am not in charge. I suppose the caveat to your methodology is that we must also have a fully functioning media. If the media worked as it should, exposing what it's supposed to expose, then yes, I imagine we could get the government we deserve. But it's not fair to leave people at the mercy of a totally compromised media. ALL the psychopaths need to be nitpicked out of the entire apparatus. A thorough delousing.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-14496132756335910742009-02-02T20:38:00.000-05:002009-02-02T20:38:00.000-05:00I don't disagree with your points. And my concept...I don't disagree with your points. And my concept attempts to avoid the NWO agenda by actually being less powerful than the current UN - no standing army, smaller in size, rotating HQ, etc. The only place I may differ is that I'm willing to have a psychopath as a leader as long as that psychopath received the most votes. To quote George Bernard Shaw...<BR/><BR/><I>“Democracy is a device that insures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.</I><BR/><BR/>Democracy doesn't guarantee good governance, just a shot at it.<BR/><BR/>garygaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04374703663229753578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-83693728523728242932009-02-02T20:12:00.000-05:002009-02-02T20:12:00.000-05:00Hi Gary,The UN is not democratic, this is true. Bu...Hi Gary,<BR/>The UN is not democratic, this is true. But the push for any change must avoid the NWO agenda, which would trade off national sovereignty for some squishy collective decisions that nobody can really be held accountable for. The answer is to elevate people's collective awareness and responsibility to each other without sacrificing their national aspirations at the altar of world government. This truly requires eliminating psychopaths and other mental defectives from positions of power, so that individual nations may elect -- via democratic processes -- people who are actually *capable* of working with other leaders from other countries without some overarching world government framework forcing them to get along. The problem is actually that the system rewards the wrong behavior on the smallest scale of each society, and thus we have vast swaths of world government populated with psychopaths, who have gained power and influence over time due to their corruption. If we could replace the individual national leaders with normal people, they could resolve many problems without having to sacrifice sovereignty. I'm sure I didn't explain this very well, but do you see the difference? It's a micro-leadership problem, not a macro-leadership problem, I guess is what I'm trying to say.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-80133324407334374542009-02-02T19:47:00.000-05:002009-02-02T19:47:00.000-05:00If we're to focus on the larger picture (yes, ther...If we're to focus on the larger picture (yes, there IS a larger picture here), we would focus on why the UN has failed so miserably to bring about world peace. My opinion is that it lacks respect by most of the world. It needs to better represent the world, not dictators and a handful of nations who created it. Here's what I propose...<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.UnitedDemocraticNations.org" REL="nofollow">www.UnitedDemocraticNations.org</A><BR/><BR/>Does anyone agree?<BR/><BR/>garygaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04374703663229753578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-69945958809847914922009-02-02T16:35:00.000-05:002009-02-02T16:35:00.000-05:00Hey, here's an idea we could use to bolster Americ...Hey, here's an idea we could use to bolster America's finances, take up the white slavery trade like Israel does!!!<BR/><BR/><B>Call to Order / How much does the state earn from trafficking in women?</B><BR/><BR/>By Shahar Ilan 21/05/2007<BR/><BR/><I>The Israel Tax Authority has assessed that brothels owe NIS 18 million in taxes from recent years. This sum pertains to 46 brothels. That is, around NIS 400,000 per brothel on average. No, it isn't that some income tax official thinks there are only 46 escort services in Israel. But in order to assess the tax on each escort service, the authority must join the police to carry out a widespread raid on them. In 2004, two such operations took place and 77 escort girls were arrested. In 2005, only one escort service was checked and since then, there have been no raids. <BR/><BR/>At a meeting of the Knesset Subcommittee on Trafficking in Women last Wednesday, Tax Authority officials explained they were dependent on police operations. <BR/><BR/>The truth is that it is also not entirely clear how many massage parlors and escort services were inspected in 2004. At the meeting, Tax Authority officials reported they had conducted 46 raids (as part of two operations); the report they submitted refers to 45 raids and the comments on the report cite 51 raids.<BR/><BR/>In any case, the chairwoman of the Knesset subcommittee, Zahava Gal-On, yesterday voiced her frustration over the amount of taxes assessed for massage parlors and the extent of its collection. A report by the Hotline for Migrant Workers estimates the profit that a trafficker makes from one woman at NIS 540,000 per year, based on a calculation of NIS 150 charged per client, 10 clients a day, 365 days a year. Gal-On mentioned that the former income tax commissioner, Tali Yaron-Eldar.<BR/><BR/>Did you expel and also inherit? <BR/><BR/>The Hotline for Migrant Workers submitted a report to the committee entitled "Did you expel and also inherit?" that describes the considerable profit the State of Israel makes from trafficking in women in particular and human trafficking in general. Unlike the state, which feels that taxing a business run by organized crime is an excellent way to fight them, the hotline sees taxing massage parlors and escort services as a way of legitimizing them. If the state is already profiting from trafficking in women, argues the hotline's legal adviser, Naomi Levenkorn, who prepared the report, then it should make sure the victims of the trafficking, and not the state, benefit from the proceeds. </I><BR/><BR/>http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/861895.html<BR/><BR/>Actually, there's over 250 brothels in Tel Aviv and Haifa alone.<BR/><BR/>http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=10128Greg Baconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08110469235589724960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-26543418315601126352009-02-02T16:09:00.000-05:002009-02-02T16:09:00.000-05:00I really like the scalding lattes idea. Perhaps so...I really like the scalding lattes idea. Perhaps somebody can make them laser guided, hmm?A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-43668563256362518662009-02-02T16:07:00.000-05:002009-02-02T16:07:00.000-05:00I've been in a spitting match with a Jew all day a...<I>I've been in a spitting match with a Jew all day at a Palestinian website.</I><BR/><BR/>What's that saying about never getting into an argument with a moron, as it only pisses off the moron and wastes your time?Greg Baconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08110469235589724960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-17792874737496663032009-02-02T16:01:00.000-05:002009-02-02T16:01:00.000-05:00Perhaps we could drop scalding Lattes out of Cessn...Perhaps we could drop scalding Lattes out of Cessnas. That would really boost the stock of Starbucks, which has suffered as of late.<BR/><BR/>Sorry, I needed a little humor. I've been in a spitting match with a Jew all day at a Palestinian website.Sishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16424481532985961991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-87469410847022365272009-02-02T14:53:00.000-05:002009-02-02T14:53:00.000-05:00What actually got the US out of the Great Depressi...What actually got the US out of the Great Depression Part I was our manufacturing base which we turned into the "Arsenal of Democracy" to first supply Britian and the USSR, then our own military to fight WWII.<BR/><BR/>But that manufacturing base is no longer there, it's been gutted and moved overseas, thanks to tax breaks enacted by Congress and NAFTA and CAFTA.<BR/><BR/>Yes, we have the ability to build weapons of war, but not nearly on the scale like we did in WWII when we kept something like 12 million American soldiers, sailors and marines outfited.Greg Baconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08110469235589724960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-20632804963209461512009-02-02T13:42:00.000-05:002009-02-02T13:42:00.000-05:00Yeh, we're not talking U-boats and unreliable ...Yeh, we're not talking U-boats and unreliable radar this time. Netanyahu with his finger on the red button is a tad unsettling. But neocons don't think of this when they are tallying up future gains in thier dreams from all the government funded technological advances and mass productivity. Talk about Rapture! Money & power make them positively giddy.Sishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16424481532985961991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-73359176526293656952009-02-02T13:34:00.000-05:002009-02-02T13:34:00.000-05:00Let us hope we're all wrong. In any case, these so...Let us hope we're all wrong. In any case, these sorts of grand plans never work out as they're supposed to.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-25659407662174423752009-02-02T13:01:00.000-05:002009-02-02T13:01:00.000-05:00Instead of ruining our economy, perhaps they are m...Instead of ruining our economy, perhaps they are manufacturing a war to save it. There's nothing like a war to grease the engines of capitalism.<BR/><BR/>We're not talking little skirmishes here. These times require WWIII to rival the magnitude of the greatest economic tsunami in history.<BR/><BR/>Before FDR stuck his toes into WWII, we made bundles off the sale of munitions (see Pittman Act). Then there's the Lend-Lease Act. When the Brits ran out of money, Churchill sent us his wish list, along with 99 year leases for the bases our US military uses today.<BR/><BR/>What can we get out of this upcoming war? Perhaps a Great Pyramid or an outer continental shelf or two? I'm sure they've got their wish lists in hand and lawyers at their side.<BR/><BR/>One thing's for sure: Detroit will be busy as heck making tanks for Greece and planes for Egypt and that will take care of unemployment in that area of our economy. <BR/><BR/>Move aside, peasants. Make way for Rosie the Riveter. We'll shed tears for the loss of our sons & daughters, but it will be for the greater good of our economy and we'll get this nice flag, made in China, but folded in a nice, neat triange.Sishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16424481532985961991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-49634126822985147012009-02-02T12:04:00.000-05:002009-02-02T12:04:00.000-05:00Israeli envoy to Australia: Gaza op a 'pre-introdu...<B>Israeli envoy to Australia: Gaza op a 'pre-introduction' to attack on Iran</B><BR/><BR/>By Asaf Ronel 01/01/2009<BR/><BR/><I>The Gaza operation was merely a "pre-introduction" to the challenge Israel would face from Iran, which will become a nuclear power within a year, the Israeli ambassador to Australia said Sunday. <BR/><BR/>According to Australia's Channel 7 television, Ambassador Yuval Rotem made the statement at a meeting with leaders of the Sydney Jewish community, having first asked that the cameras be switched off. <BR/><BR/>While being filmed before the discussion, Rotem said, "The best thing to do is to have a very open dialogue if there are no reporters or journalists here," before telling the cameraman to stop filming. <BR/><BR/>"He said that Israel's recent military offensives were a pre-introduction to the challenge Israel expects from a nuclear-equipped Iran within a year," Channel 7 reporter Sarah Cummings said. She also quoted Rotem as saying "Israel's efforts in Gaza were to bring about understanding that we are ready to engage in a decisive way.</I><BR/><BR/>http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1060802.htmlGreg Baconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08110469235589724960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-49927105856126649762009-02-02T11:54:00.000-05:002009-02-02T11:54:00.000-05:00Petras is probably right, but Israel still needs U...Petras is probably right, but Israel still needs US assistance to bomb Iran.<BR/><BR/>That's why we used lies to invade Iraq, it was between two of Israel's "existential" enemies, Syria and Iran and a convenient launch pad for invading those countries.<BR/><BR/>Only one thing is lacking and that's another 9/11 event against the USA, either here or overseas at some Pentagon military installation, with clues left pointing at Iran.<BR/><BR/>And that's what VP Joe "I'm a Zionist" Biden predicted a couple of months ago, an attack against the US in the early months of an Obama administration.<BR/><BR/>I can hear mad dogs like Limbaugh and O'LIElly now, calling Obama on the carpet and questioning his manhood for not having served in the US military--never mind that neither of those clowns did--and telling their ditto heads we just have to hit Iran to save the American way of life.<BR/><BR/>And we will.Greg Baconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08110469235589724960noreply@blogger.com