tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post3313922642530310677..comments2023-10-22T08:57:00.454-04:00Comments on Twelfth Bough: one point for being closeA. Peasanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-84002747530065690882011-06-10T09:34:11.191-04:002011-06-10T09:34:11.191-04:00The logic for the sprouts being the triggering age...The logic for the sprouts being the triggering agent in a 'binary process' doesn't work. <br /><br />That's the sort of thing that can only be arrived at working backwards <strong>after</strong> establishing the other half of the 'binary' cause.<br /><br />This is because until you know what the 'other half' needs you have no idea what it is that's in the sprouts that triggers the reaction. Therefore how could you know that there is ANYTHING in the sprouts that is causing the reaction? <br /><br />How would anyone know it is not from picking your nose which every one of the victims admitted to doing in the 24 hrs before falling ill? <br /><br />How do you know it isn't, indeed, listening to Lady Gaga that's doing it? (much more likely!)<br /><br />I think the people who are making these statements are laughing their tits off at this (us).<br /><br />wv "joligin" You can't make this stuff up!jameshttp://www.winterpatriot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-46040482869040160162011-06-10T07:41:56.453-04:002011-06-10T07:41:56.453-04:00i'm trying to kick the ball a little bit furth...i'm trying to kick the ball a little bit further down the field with a post... per this:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/11/world/europe/11ecoli.html<br /><br />"No harmful bacteria had been found in any samples, he said. But from the pattern of the outbreak, “it was possible to narrow down epidemiologically the cause of the outbreak of the illness to the consumption of sprouts.” "<br /><br />either that is total bullshit, or people who consumed the sprouts, which were not contaminated, somehow ate the magic ingredient to trigger the protein.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-41967815108955609782011-06-10T07:30:04.955-04:002011-06-10T07:30:04.955-04:00Hi Guys,
maybe, knowing that "poor" peop...Hi Guys,<br />maybe, knowing that "poor" people will eat cetain things, like sprouts, and also veges..there is something within our systems that makes the spread of bacterium irresistable?..a layer in our systems ready to pick up this shit..ie bacteria/other virus/disease that we have NO knowledge about..like ferris said..from ANY innocuos thing..<br />BUT..the female uptake ratio's disturb me into thinking that there must be , some thing different to attract or cause the HUS syptoms to appear...ie.hormonal hypothesys..<br />WTFKS.....<br />A13A13https://www.blogger.com/profile/00819669787748984989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-13987638230960978322011-06-10T06:42:54.352-04:002011-06-10T06:42:54.352-04:00ferris:
"My money's on some kind of bina...ferris:<br /><br />"My money's on some kind of binary weapon - u ingest the food with one half and then its up to u if u do the 2nd trigger-part which could be anything from using a specific brand of cotton buds, impregnated toilet paper or listening to Miley Cyrus album."<br /><br />this seems to be what they are saying this morning. even though the sprouts tested negative, people who ATE the sprouts became ill. how could that be?<br /><br />also i totally agree that there's something wrong with the whole idea that healthy food is only affordable to certain classes.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-58988744646922713622011-06-10T04:41:06.221-04:002011-06-10T04:41:06.221-04:00Sprouts" I was advised by someone a few years...Sprouts" I was advised by someone a few years ago that it might be a good idea to not eat sprouts from restaurants and definitely don't buy them from a shop [ esp, Supermarkets]. Growing them at home seems to give back a sense of autonomy for those without gardens , and of course a hell of a lot cheaper.<br /><br />The bio-health food industry , generally affordable to those above a certain income bracket, also plays its part in confusing people about food while being thought of as food experts [ almost by default].<br /><br />To me there is a certain nastiness about 'bio' food and it comparative inaccessibility from the lower income population.<br /><br />From spanish cucumbers, through bio-sprouts to bioterrorists.<br /><br />My money's on some kind of binary weapon - u ingest the food with one half and then its up to u if u do the 2nd trigger-part which could be anything from using a specific brand of cotton buds, impregnated toilet paper or listening to Miley Cyrus album.<br /><br />Basic stopry though is that HEALTH IS UNHEALTHY , sprrk skixx crackle kapoof, [ the sound of cognitive functions breaking down].<br /><br />We shall be put upon to drink 'Cat's blood' from the Lady Gaga range of food products.<br /><br />Bon Appetitaferrismoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10323962086698914361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-50616176467224303922011-06-09T21:36:43.002-04:002011-06-09T21:36:43.002-04:00greetings men from Oz....
well yes that seems to ...greetings men from Oz....<br /><br />well yes that seems to have been a win win for the anti-Selimites. it's always great when the taxpayers pony up the money owed.<br /><br />V: "I didn't notice anything because I don't dig into the MSM I just see stuff when I do my drive-by of the Gnus programs in the Ayem and the Pyem. So, not an authority on anything inherent to it." <br /><br />-- brilliantly stated.<br /><br />it is very sad about the Japanese and totally understandable. it is living under a cloud of doom, and what can they do? there's no recourse. there's no way to know what will happen in terms of illness, and when it does, how to ever get anyone to acknowledge their responsibility for it. it's actually the same situation everywhere in terms of poison in the environment only much more overtly stated in Japan's case.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-23508245379043509142011-06-09T21:26:43.981-04:002011-06-09T21:26:43.981-04:00Hey AP,...Nobs, excellent follow up; I was not awa...Hey AP,...Nobs, excellent follow up; I was not aware of the Compo' paid to Selim, or the others, I didn't notice anything because I don't dig into the MSM I just see stuff when I do my drive-by of the Gnus programs in the Ayem and the Pyem. So, not an authority on anything inherent to it. <br /><br />Nastrovya<br /><br />veritasveritas6464https://www.blogger.com/profile/05652634161424162750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-32702258898419334412011-06-09T21:05:44.674-04:002011-06-09T21:05:44.674-04:00Very good. I'll just add to Veritas' bit a...Very good. I'll just add to Veritas' bit about the Pan Pharmaceuticals shutdown - the owner of Pan was Gamal 'Jim' Selim who was - horror! - an Arab born in Egypt. Well that's him fucked. Selim declared that there was a 'vendetta' against him, sued the federal government for $200M, <i>and won</i>. Following that, Pan's shareholders, partners, suppliers, and customers also sued the government and <i>they too won</i>.<br /><br />I reckon if you were able to unsnarl the rat's nest underlying the campaign against him (they resorted to the biggest product recall in the history of the world) you'd find some 'interesting' people there. But it was all good! They destroyed the man they were after and when the falsity of it all was revealed the Australian government (ie. the Australian taxpayers) paid for it all. Another perfect two-fer - three cheers!<br /><br />That aside, everything that is recommended here makes sense with or without radiation. Sure the radiation is another reason to pile in but since we've no way of knowing if a thing is radioactive or not it's all much of a muchness.<br /><br />Speaking of which, I asked my Japanese friends what their families and friends in Japan (North in Morioka and South in Tokyo) are doing about the radiation and they say there's nothing they can do. How can you tell what's good and bad? You have to buy food, so they buy food. But imagine eating with a permanant mindset of vague dread, and that mostly for your children. God pity those poor sons of bitches.nobodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13067422372087431256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-8462013344700768422011-06-09T19:48:45.137-04:002011-06-09T19:48:45.137-04:00very thought provoking, wondering what could be th...very thought provoking, wondering what could be the change agent. <br /><br />hormones, something in the air or food supply....? <br /><br /><br /><i>"for example, look and act entirely like normal creatures until they are placed in contact with a certain sort of poison [an antibiotic]. Then, because they are producing an an unnatural protein, they survive while all the others die.</i><br /><br />is it possible that the antibiotics used to treat the infection made the people sicker? thus the more aggressively a person was treated perhaps the worse they became, since multiple antibiotics could possibly even trigger multiple unnatural proteins in such a bio-engineered illness, adding to the virulence narrative? i don't suppose that level of detail is accessible in the public domain. but once these people land in hospital no doubt the first thing that happens is they start getting pumped with medicine.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-76446144679337507722011-06-09T19:16:46.104-04:002011-06-09T19:16:46.104-04:00Hi Pez, and Hi Jen, Thanks for that, I'm off t...Hi Pez, and Hi Jen, Thanks for that, I'm off to read the links..It just doesn't look right from bio point of view, even to someone like me with minimal sci knowledge ( did a bit of pharmacy at uni back in the 80's)<br />i wondering though if the the bascterium with the new properties..that acted like normal until they came into contact with something that "changed them"..ie create unnatural proiten??could have something to do with female hormones?? as women were vastly over represented in the uptake and death/rate.<br />it must have something to do with that? like oestrogen? or similar?<br />just another angle to add..<br />Off i go to read these links :)<br />Thanks very much.<br />Cheers A13A13https://www.blogger.com/profile/00819669787748984989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-79092107236155679752011-06-09T08:47:40.966-04:002011-06-09T08:47:40.966-04:00James, thanks for the posting tip-- good idea.
A1...James, thanks for the posting tip-- good idea. <br />A13, you've found a gem. The biotech with the test basically knew what they were looking for-- a single mutation point-- even if they were "innocent". Consider this about E.coli: published 2001, "Expanding the Genetic Code of Escherichia coli" http://www.sciencemag.org/content/292/5516/498.abstract; here's a quote about artificial amino acids in E.coli: "Augmenting proteins with unnatural amino acids could make existing proteins more potent in their actions, or even endow them with entirely new properties that might be useful for industry or medicine. Dr. Schultz's [E.coli], for example, look and act entirely like normal creatures until they are placed in contact with a certain sort of poison [an antibiotic]. Then, because they are producing an an unnatural protein, they survive while all the others die." http://www.economist.com/node/987697?story-id=987697 . <br /> I wonder if the mutant has an unnatural amino acid or a transgene-- that would make it a very 'special' sort of lab escapee. The radioactive uptick we all have to contend with makes this a great time for mutant microbes, ideal for seeding "new codes".Jen Lakehttp://www.jenniferlake.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-38059783292152530562011-06-08T23:31:33.182-04:002011-06-08T23:31:33.182-04:00Swiss chard, boiled; Spinach, boiled; and Kelp (se...Swiss chard, boiled; Spinach, boiled; and Kelp (sea vegetable) are great sources of magnesium.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-84927259472223111282011-06-08T20:41:34.836-04:002011-06-08T20:41:34.836-04:00Jen (and others)
Booger seems to have a time limit...Jen (and others)<br />Booger seems to have a time limit for posting comments. SO it is long, it is best to compose it in a word doc and then go online and copy and paste it.<br /><br />Even on shorter comments now i right click and copy them before hitting 'preview' or 'publish'.<br /><br />If it drops out, i then leave the site (blog) and then open it again and try and post it again.jameshttp://www.winterpatriot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-81323216312105893072011-06-08T20:08:23.826-04:002011-06-08T20:08:23.826-04:00hi Jen, so sorry you lost the comment. damn booger...hi Jen, so sorry you lost the comment. damn booger does things like that all too often. <br /><br />i'm reading your polio link now. <br /><br />hola Pen, good suggestion re: the sea salts. and i just received my bottle of fulvic acid but now i need to get some distilled water because of course they floridate all the water here. so helpful.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-40241132228096716122011-06-08T13:06:12.183-04:002011-06-08T13:06:12.183-04:00Hey AP, good post and A13 has been kickin ass too!...Hey AP, good post and A13 has been kickin ass too!<br /><br />Saw something over at natural news about magnesium for radiation.<br /><br />Of course kelp, helps with the thyroid.<br /><br />All the seasalts which are full of all manner of minerals, but, if you want to get any I suggest you get it now and stock up, it will soon be contaminated thanks to FukushimaPennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16834513101685995010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-33745818753376380672011-06-08T10:32:56.351-04:002011-06-08T10:32:56.351-04:00I wrote out a long post for this thread but lost i...I wrote out a long post for this thread but lost it on the uptake --going to comment on E.coli in transgenic and mutation research as a favorite organism. The recombinant work was DONE between 1968 and 1971-- posted at www.polioforever.wordpress.com/sv40-monkey-virus/ pasting SV40 into E.coli, but as highly mutable bacteria, mutant E.coli is tested with antibiotics to measure its transformation success. Antibiotic resistance is a byproduct of transgenic research, and non-rDNA E.coli work is considered a low biohazard so its entry in the environment is inevitable besides being a terror weapon, perfect for commercial sabotage. <br /> Good diet ideas against gut pathogens is to outcompete them, called 'competitive exclusion'practices in agriculture. This is crucial for raising radiation resistance too--the intestines are extremely vulnerable. What I'm learning in the course of radiation-illness suggests high-fiber foods are a longterm hazard. The overwhelming damage from radiation destroys structural proteins which exhausts the immune system --AIDS-like-- and Dr. Stephan Lanka is brilliant and courageous!Jen Lakehttp://www.jenniferlake.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-16256687044902064092011-06-08T06:05:10.844-04:002011-06-08T06:05:10.844-04:00no worries. i think you are onto something. i real...no worries. i think you are onto something. i really suck at science however, so it's hard for me to say for sure. <br /><br />here's a link dated 8/5/10:<br /><br />http://farmwars.info/?p=3570<br /><br /><i>"It is possible that a mutated form of e-coli resulting from the cloning process used in creating GMOs could get into the gut of a person or animal that eats a transgenic plant.<br /><br />Could this be why DuPont, the company that produces Pioneer Hi-Bred GMO animal feed, and proud proponent of GMO technology, has jumped into partnership with the USDA in identifying hard-to-identify strains of e-coli?<br /><br />A new joint project between DuPont Qualicon and the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) aims to develop testing to detect hard-to-identify strains of E.coli that are not regulated and have been causing increasing instances of food contamination.<br /><br />(http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/somebody-save-us-the-usda-is-partnering-with-dupont/#more-10972)<br /><br />With this convenient partnership, even if harmful strains of e-coli relating to GMOs are discovered, it is likely that the public will never hear it from the USDA or DuPont."</i><br /><br />and a recent comment there:<br /><br /><i>"Great article…. I remember a huge debate back in the early 70′s about using e-coli to facilitate modifying genes… the thought was back then that it might be possible to get toxic e-coli into the food chain with disasterous results, (no human immunity)…. the argument back then was that no responsible scientist would take that chance. How far we’ve come. Once these bugs proliferate, we could see MASSIVE die offs of human populations, like the plagues in europe, of the decimation of the native americans by diseases to which they had no natural resistance. This goes even beyond gmo labeling debates, into the realm of science fiction. Once the toxic e-coli gets loose, there’s just no telling what might happen, as it won’t care whether it’s carrier is organic or not. So, even if all gmo’s were labeled, that’s no longer the only issue we’re going to face."</i><br /><br /><br />also, what do you think of this:<br /><br />http://www.neue-medizin.com/lanka2.htm<br /><br />also here: comments:<br /><br />http://aunk.newsvine.com/_news/2010/07/15/4683380-dr-stefan-lanka-exposes-the-viral-fraud<br /><br /><br />is Jen Lake here? if so Jen what do you think??A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-91290525091369928812011-06-07T21:57:54.779-04:002011-06-07T21:57:54.779-04:00It is cloning..Eculizumab is one of these..
wikipe...It is cloning..Eculizumab is one of these..<br />wikipedia again..<br /><br />Monoclonal antibodies (mAb or moAb) are monospecific antibodies that are the same because they are made by identical immune cells that are all clones of a unique parent cell.<br /><br />and...<br /><br />'Fully' human monoclonal antibodies.<br />Ever since the discovery that monoclonal antibodies could be generated in-vitro, scientists have targeted the creation of 'fully' human antibodies to avoid some of the side effects of humanised and chimeric antibodies"<br /><br />if they can do this..<br />well couldn't something like this be used to CREATE a biovirus in the same process??<br />Remember the ecoli bacteria is a Chimera..and well, you know.<br /><br />sorry about all the coments but i just have to bounce this off..It doesn't sit right.<br />cheers A13A13https://www.blogger.com/profile/00819669787748984989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-60108550771638648522011-06-07T21:44:17.418-04:002011-06-07T21:44:17.418-04:00no question A13, something is missing from the sto...no question A13, something is missing from the story. <br /><br />several somethings.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-83196316860882969952011-06-07T21:36:24.046-04:002011-06-07T21:36:24.046-04:00Hi A.P..
It is a very suss narrative and business ...Hi A.P..<br />It is a very suss narrative and business model...a FRONT?<br />check here from Wikipedia..<br /><br />On April 4, 2011 Alexion became a member of the Nasdaq-100, a group composed of the 100 largest non-financial stocks traded on the Nasdaq; with a market value of USD 8.5 billion it replaced Genzyme Corporation.[7]<br /><br />and also this is mentioned..<br /><br />"Alexion CEO at the time (Leonard Bell) cited Proliferon's ability to produce an 'unlimited amount of antibodies' as the reason for the acquisition (also referred to as a merger)."<br /><br />AN UNLIMITED amount of antibodies?<br />What are they doing? Cloning?<br />perplexing.<br />A13A13https://www.blogger.com/profile/00819669787748984989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-31052998521073893582011-06-07T21:10:54.980-04:002011-06-07T21:10:54.980-04:00A13, i think you got a live one there. let me get ...A13, i think you got a live one there. let me get this straight about this drug:<br /><br />it has severe side effects that require a meningococcal vaccine 2 weeks prior to taking it. not sure how such a drug is useful then in an acute illness. what if the patients are so sick they can't wait two weeks?<br /><br />this is the only drug the company markets. that is what justifies the extremely high price.<br /><br />weirdly enough, product sales grew 40% last year even though the drug is only approved for a rare blood disease.<br /><br />"Bock justified the medicine's high price with the company's extremely high-risk strategy of only developing drugs for rare and hopeless diseases."<br /><br />WHICH MIRACULOUSLY does not appear to be so extremely high risk after all ???<br /><br />PLUS they are even GIVING the drug away. not clear how they can afford to do that -- how this business model actually works. something appears to be missing. it is not a business model that makes any sense to me, yet somehow it all works out?<br /><br />and they base the drug's "success" on ONE patient, who is not a patient involved in this outbreak.<br /><br />that is really one hell of a narrative they have going on there with this drug.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-10389647753420578122011-06-07T20:54:01.444-04:002011-06-07T20:54:01.444-04:00a nony mouse, now hot damn that's a diet i cou...a nony mouse, now hot damn that's a diet i could perhaps manage. salt and wine, not really a problem. maybe we could make some raw milk ice cream too, to Jen's point. will need some coffee. also fond of wasabi...A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-65776219624321403892011-06-07T20:30:00.864-04:002011-06-07T20:30:00.864-04:00Hi A.P.
Some interesting info,
The Drug is called ...Hi A.P.<br />Some interesting info,<br />The Drug is called SOLIRIS and is the MOST EXPENSIVE drug in the world..From WIKIpedia..<br />According to Forbes magazine, Soliris, at $409,500 a year, is the world's single most expensive drug.[2]<br /><br />IT also is VERY dangerous and has potentially deady side effects.<br /><br />"<br />IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION <br />WARNING: SERIOUS MENINGOCOCCAL INFECTIONS<br />Soliris increases the risk of meningococcal infections. Meningococcal infection may become rapidly life-threatening or fatal if not recognized and treated early<br />Vaccinate patients with a meningococcal vaccine at least 2 weeks prior to receiving the first dose of Soliris; revaccinate according to current medical guidelines for vaccine use<br />Monitor patients for early signs of meningococcal infections, evaluate immediately if infection is suspected, and treat with antibiotics if necessary"<br /><br />see more from here:<br />http://www.alxn.com/SolirisAndPNH/ImportantSafetyInfo.aspx<br /><br />Cheers A13A13https://www.blogger.com/profile/00819669787748984989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-90586552150926412602011-06-07T20:23:01.686-04:002011-06-07T20:23:01.686-04:00The Russians gave their bioweapons scientists dail...The Russians gave their bioweapons scientists daily raw milk --people who spent their days around radiation and deadly microbes.Jen Lakehttp://www.jenniferlake.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-87669846171776854872011-06-07T20:06:39.118-04:002011-06-07T20:06:39.118-04:00Hi Pez, here is something Interesting.
They are n...Hi Pez, here is something Interesting.<br /><br />They are now using UNTESTED drugs on the Patients of the Ecoli outbreak..Suss..A LIVE testing enviroment?? FREE "medicine"?<br /><br />"US drug manufacturer Alexion is sending free medicine to Germany to help doctors battling the most severe cases in the current E. coli outbreak. But the extent to which Eculizumab can help remains unclear"<br /><br />From HERE:<br /><br />http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,766918,00.html<br /><br />Again, who benefits?<br />Cheers A13A13https://www.blogger.com/profile/00819669787748984989noreply@blogger.com