tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post486219092355321123..comments2023-10-22T08:57:00.454-04:00Comments on Twelfth Bough: but they overplayed their hand at a crucial moment - updatedA. Peasanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-60083065599840822172011-02-13T20:58:30.863-05:002011-02-13T20:58:30.863-05:00"Israel again...pimping for war like the abso..."Israel again...pimping for war like the absolute creatures they are....<br />They WANT to be isolated so they can play victim, then LASH out (with the help of their FRIENDS of course)"<br /><br />that is exactly correct A13.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-67762482436031869212011-02-13T20:39:27.437-05:002011-02-13T20:39:27.437-05:00Hi A.P
I've just found this story so i'll ...Hi A.P<br />I've just found this story so i'll put it in here, it could be relevant too..<br /><br />Ex-Israeli Official:<br />Mideast Dominoes Point to War<br /><br />Friday, 11 Feb 2011 06:56 PM <br />By David A. Patten<br /><br />George Birnbaum, an international political consultant who once served as chief of staff to former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, is warning that a domino-style collapse of moderate Arab regimes could lead Israel to war.<br /><br />Birnbaum, an expert in global politics, cited Friday’s collapse of Hosni Mubarak in Egypt and the growing turmoil in nearby Jordan as ominous signs for Israel.<br /><br />Israel’s neighbor on the other side of the West Bank is ruled by King Abdullah II, a constitutional monarch who is Hashemite, a minority. Abdullah reigns over a population that is 70 percent Palestinian. <br /><br />“He had to relieve his government a few weeks ago,” Birnbaum told host Stuart Varney of Fox News on Friday. “If that country goes, and in Bahrain and other countries, suddenly you’re going to find Israel in a similar position it was in 1948, where it’ll be isolated, surrounded by Islamic countries looking to see its destruction -- with the one exception that Israel has the ability to defend itself this time.<br /><br />“But that creates another problem,” he added, “which is a regional if not greater war that the world will have to face.”<br /><br />Birnbaum said Israel could be “in great danger.”<br /><br />© Newsmax. All rights reserved. <br /><br />Israel again...pimping for war like the absolute creatures they are....<br />They WANT to be isolated so they can play victim, then LASH out (with the help of their FRIENDS of course)<br /><br />Thanks A13A13https://www.blogger.com/profile/00819669787748984989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-22529383994856241642011-02-13T20:30:47.633-05:002011-02-13T20:30:47.633-05:00Merkel will be sure to finish him, don't want ...Merkel will be sure to finish him, don't want too many Hosni interviews.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-55016999173140564732011-02-13T19:13:03.226-05:002011-02-13T19:13:03.226-05:00A REGRETTABLE turn of events... ;-)
He had much mo...A REGRETTABLE turn of events... ;-)<br />He had much money left to spend!<br /><br />Mubarak in life/death state in Germany hospital<br />http://www.examiner.com/foreign-policy-in-national/mubarak-life-death-state-germany-hospital<br />-swittersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-23189192094224948462011-02-13T18:36:51.366-05:002011-02-13T18:36:51.366-05:00oh good luck with catching up! i will add you to t...oh good luck with catching up! i will add you to the blogroll.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-80887419674979671312011-02-13T18:25:52.339-05:002011-02-13T18:25:52.339-05:00Hey sister - good to see that you are still fighti...Hey sister - good to see that you are still fighting the good fight over here. I added a blog list to my blog, and I'm going to add your blog to it right now. alternative media is our only hope. I'm going to read some of your recent posts too - I have been more or less ignoring the whole "Egypt thing" and i need to catch my brain up on current events.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-62888884382916354332011-02-13T18:11:38.935-05:002011-02-13T18:11:38.935-05:00According to Honk Bonk Man,
http://honkbonkman.blo...According to Honk Bonk Man,<br />http://honkbonkman.blogspot.com/<br /><br />The Natioal Endowment for Democracy have been busy little beavers:<br />And the Women and Youth programs seem especially "fruitfull"<br /><br />http://www.ned.org/where-we-work/middle-east-and-northern-africa/egypt<br /><br />A13A13https://www.blogger.com/profile/00819669787748984989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-23846972871273643152011-02-13T18:05:12.445-05:002011-02-13T18:05:12.445-05:00A13, i like the way your eyeballs work!A13, i like the way your eyeballs work!A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-57291838378043913972011-02-13T18:01:38.236-05:002011-02-13T18:01:38.236-05:00HI A.P
The "interesting" photo with the ...HI A.P<br />The "interesting" photo with the caption that reads:<br /><br />"Women have been at the heart of organising protests in Tahrir Square [Getty]" <br /><br />well, that sure is no woman to me.<br />"dude looks like a lady"...not.<br /><br />Putting a pink shawl over your head does not automatically qualify you for a woman.<br /><br />One of the legit protestors?? Don't think so.<br />Cheers<br />A13A13https://www.blogger.com/profile/00819669787748984989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-3725295572612440382011-02-13T17:23:51.247-05:002011-02-13T17:23:51.247-05:00This is a pretty extensive breakdown.
http://sni...This is a pretty extensive breakdown. <br /><br />http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.com/2011/02/israels-fission-field-warfare-pakistan.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-48827057282096575452011-02-13T17:10:24.726-05:002011-02-13T17:10:24.726-05:00To your second point HHQ, I think the concern was ...To your second point HHQ, I think the concern was that the junior officers and enlisted men, if armed with ammunition, would have intervened much more effectively on behalf of the people, stymied the terror unleashed by senior police and set in train a potential mutiny later. At the very least it would have put the generals in an embarrassing (to them) position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-5552294959089133012011-02-13T17:00:02.561-05:002011-02-13T17:00:02.561-05:00excellent comment HHQ. and sure enough, to your po...excellent comment HHQ. and sure enough, to your point about israel's reactions, is that they have been so uncharacteristically tight lipped.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-11123857418141961462011-02-13T16:26:52.793-05:002011-02-13T16:26:52.793-05:00McJ's reply stated, "the military in the ...McJ's reply stated, "the military in the square were not provisioned with bullets. The military were trying as best they could to battle the police/thugs - but Suleiman had taken away their bullets for fear the military would side with the protesters and use the ammunition to overthrow him."<br /><br />This is very interesting evidence, as it points to a couple of possibilities to consider:<br /><br />1) The police were behind the prisoner release and thug attacks, and the military were not armed because that operation was in place. After all the military know exactly where their weapons are stored and if they truly wanted to secure ammunition and use it to overthrow Mubarak/Suleiman, they could have at any time.<br /><br />2) If the military are truly behind the people and support the revolutionary movement, they will not telegraph this and admit to it at all. That is a calculated tactical strategy. The key to what is what is what, and where this is all going is to surveil Israel's reactions for they have the most subversion invested in Egypt and the entire region. Their intelligence apparatus is working overtime to either manage their Egyptian penetrations and infiltrations, or suss out the weaknesses for exploitation in a burgeoning organic, genuine structure. <br /><br />Great work everyone on staying on top of the ever-morphing information and the top shelf analysis.Hei Hu Quanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12312329850000448568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-44083595943845623962011-02-13T14:41:19.917-05:002011-02-13T14:41:19.917-05:00"also just about everyone looks utterly exhau..."also just about everyone looks utterly exhausted"<br /><br />As one reporter put it they are all suffering from a "revolution hangover".McJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-22119626526731621142011-02-13T14:17:17.749-05:002011-02-13T14:17:17.749-05:00mmhmm, excellent McJ.
in these pics, if you clic...mmhmm, excellent McJ. <br /><br />in these pics, if you click through, there are others showing the police officers with the crowd and the chant of (paraphrase) "the people and the police are one hand".<br /><br />also just about everyone looks utterly exhausted.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-73554565166113291472011-02-13T14:00:11.963-05:002011-02-13T14:00:11.963-05:00I found this interesting bit of information on Al ...I found this interesting bit of information on Al Jazeera's live blog of the protest that I hadn't caught while covering this. <br />"On February 4, the day of the most terrifying police/thug brutality in Tahrir Square, many commentators noted that the military were trying to stop the thug attacks but were not being very forceful or aggressive. Was this a sign that the military really wanted the protesters to be crushed? Since then, we have learned that <b> the military in the square were not provisioned with bullets. The military were trying as best they could to battle the police/thugs - but Suleiman had taken away their bullets for fear the military would side with the protesters and use the ammunition to overthrow him.</b><br />"http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/02/20112101030726228.html<br /><br />And here is the BBC quoting the UN Deputy Secretary "...this is really two armies. It's a younger army of people who were out there trying to guard the square and who let kids and families climb all over the tanks and clearly felt a generational empathy. But it's an army also of elderly generals, who've been some of the most conservative backers of President Mubarak for the last 30 years, and so I think you're going to see a fissure within the army if the generals try to hold out for stability over democracy."<br />http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/9395518.stm BBC<br /><br />And in a bizarre side note the Egyptian police today have been marching and protesting. These police, I take it, are the "beat cops" and presumably not the ones that took part in attacking the protesters (at least that is what I gleaned from the AJ report). They are saying that did not abandon their posts (I'm sure if they were saying they were ordered to go home?) and shouting slogans like 'the people and police together'. They are also demanding better pay and working conditions as they say the pay is very low and the hours are long as opposed to the 'elite' members of the force that are able to live a very privileged life on their salaries and perks. <br /><br />So, lots of divisions playing out here which from what I see break down into the elite ruling class and their security apparatus (which would include the Interior Ministry, members of the military and members of the civilian police force) vs everyone else. <br /><br />It will be very interesting to watch which way the military will lean having a foot and an interest in both camps. The Egyptian military is also hugely invested both professionally and personally in the Egyptian economy.McJnoreply@blogger.com