tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post70896338675518342..comments2023-10-22T08:57:00.454-04:00Comments on Twelfth Bough: eleven twenty nine - UPDATEDA. Peasanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-25274596406242247882012-11-27T07:17:31.754-05:002012-11-27T07:17:31.754-05:00indeed, that's an excellent analysis. thanks f...indeed, that's an excellent analysis. thanks for that link.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-89365992970144025022012-11-26T10:50:19.304-05:002012-11-26T10:50:19.304-05:00Some good points made here also: Iron Dome, Pillar...Some good points made here also: <a href="http://www.roitov.com/articles/irondomepillarofcloud.htm" rel="nofollow">Iron Dome, Pillar of Cloud, and Netanyahu's Next War</a><br />freethinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-30496263599644115902012-11-25T14:12:36.601-05:002012-11-25T14:12:36.601-05:00freethinker, i am going to try to get a follow up ...freethinker, i am going to try to get a follow up post going. this is just too easy. did martha stewart herself put this together because i have never seen such a neat and tidy wrap up of a war? apparently they got rid of whichever people in hamas were actually resisting, and they are wasting no time getting on with the next steps. <br /><br /><i>The main result of Operation Pillar of Defense was to make clear that the relations between Israel and the Palestinian representative of this new bloc – Hamas – constitute the most significant front of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The Ramallah-led West Bank Palestinian Authority was a largely invisible irrelevance over the past weeks.</i><br /><br />not only was that the "main result" but it was no doubt the "main goal." now the negotiations can be all in-house, as they say.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-28815655576499898752012-11-25T13:16:13.168-05:002012-11-25T13:16:13.168-05:00Gaza confrontation showcases new Sunni bloc
"...<a href="http://www.jpost.com/Features/FrontLines/Article.aspx?id=293148" rel="nofollow">Gaza confrontation showcases new Sunni bloc</a><br /><br /><i>"<br />Operation Pillar of Defense and the means by which it was concluded have showcased the arrival of a new player in Middle East strategy and diplomacy: an alliance of Sunni Islamist states and movements, including Hamas, in which Egypt plays the central role. The birth of this Sunni Islamist bloc is the main product of the changes that swept the Arab world in 2011.<br />...<br />The key question at that point was how Muslim Brotherhood-controlled Egypt would react. This was a test case; the first confrontation between Israel and Hamas-Gaza since the downfall of the Mubarak regime.<br />...<br />The rise of the Brotherhood to power in Egypt gave Hamas an enormous boost. As a result, the movement was able to extricate itself from its impossible position as a guest of a Syrian regime engaged in the slaughter of Hamas’s fellow Muslim Brothers.<br />...<br />The main result of Operation Pillar of Defense was to make clear that the relations between Israel and the Palestinian representative of this new bloc – Hamas – constitute the most significant front of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The Ramallah-led West Bank Palestinian Authority was a largely invisible irrelevance over the past weeks.<br /><br />The natural relations between Israel and the Sunni Islamist bloc are of conflict. The evidence resulting from Operation Pillar of Defense suggests, however, that at least for the moment this conflict can be managed – for as long as Israel remains the militarily dominant side and Egypt remains economically dependent on Western aid."<br /></i>freethinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-13639979812899073002012-11-24T19:34:39.558-05:002012-11-24T19:34:39.558-05:00Freethinker, that sounds dead on to me. News stori...Freethinker, that sounds dead on to me. News stories are tacking along those exact lines. I think they will have to strike while the iron is hot. Not sure they expected the pushback against morsi. The egyptian judiciary is organizing against him. Hillary must hve given him a long leash but maybe he will wrap himself around a tree.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-61225012676574562022012-11-24T19:30:07.149-05:002012-11-24T19:30:07.149-05:00Hi neil, good to see you. The disconnect between w...Hi neil, good to see you. The disconnect between what we all see and what we are told we see is just impassable. But, that will not stop them. I do not really know what will.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-28829961187661617852012-11-24T06:47:14.994-05:002012-11-24T06:47:14.994-05:00Jonathan Azaziah had some interesting insights in ...Jonathan Azaziah had some interesting insights in his Ugly-Truth broadcast. To paraphrase the 2 most important points (IMO)-<br /><br />It was a preplanned operation (IDF have admitted that in tweets) to:<br /><br />Cull certain factions within Hamas and Islamic Jihad and make Hamas more suitable as a united face of Palestine with the deposing of the PA.<br /><br />Raise the status of Qatar, Turkey, Egypt & the Muslim Brotherhood (the Axis of Collaborators) especially amongst the leftists and anti-imperialists who have already swallowed the 'Arab Spring' narrative; hence marginalise support for the real friends of the Palestinians Syria, Hezbollah and Iran in preparation of a fresh campaign against them. This explains why Israel appeared to hand victory to Morsi on a silver platter.freethinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-46369152912450573852012-11-23T16:20:58.468-05:002012-11-23T16:20:58.468-05:00That's some detailed info,,,
I'm just glad...That's some detailed info,,,<br />I'm just glad the bombs have stopped,,<br />And surely now it is blatantly obvious to the entire world<br />That Israel as a state is completely psychopathic,,<br />Utterly insain,,,<br /><br />Good read as usual mrs peasant,,,neilAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-1113830612742288382012-11-23T14:14:54.680-05:002012-11-23T14:14:54.680-05:00hi again,
you know i read that article yesterday a...hi again,<br />you know i read that article yesterday also, and i laughed. the thing is these viewpoints are so insular. it's not the sort of stuff that gets paraded around everywhere anymore, it's just the ziowingnuts and their sites who keep passing around to each other. heritage, hudson, and the various think tanks and their followers.<br /><br />"old sarge" in GA and "mac" in AZ, yes they are the sorts of americans who just love israel more than anything. real patriots and hasbarat trolls.<br /><br />A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-62279140464844085912012-11-23T12:29:36.631-05:002012-11-23T12:29:36.631-05:00Something's cooking for sure. Israel accepted ...Something's cooking for sure. Israel accepted the Egyptian cease-fire plan much too readily. Something is going to happen that will force Israel reluctantly (of course) to retaliate hard and after they have been so nice and accepted the cease-fire and all... <br /><br />There's the smell a false-flag against Iran in the air.<br />Re that Krauthammer 'piece', I was taken by the Mac from Arizona comment.<br /><br />This article is breathtaking- <a href="http://freebeacon.com/a-sudan-surprise/" rel="nofollow">Hamas militants may have received new weapons from Iran through Sudan, experts say</a>freethinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-2924520181511832852012-11-23T09:00:23.521-05:002012-11-23T09:00:23.521-05:00In fact a review of news shows that this "onl...In fact a review of news shows that this "only till the next round" meme is in full swing. Very busy zigging and zagging. They must have someplace to get to.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-6695139786084321782012-11-23T08:57:47.390-05:002012-11-23T08:57:47.390-05:00Freethinker check out the whiner krauthammer as he...Freethinker check out the whiner krauthammer as he explains this is only until the next round.<br /><br />http://patriotpost.us/opinion/15604<br /><br />What a piece of shit,A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-3896744240827769842012-11-23T08:29:05.932-05:002012-11-23T08:29:05.932-05:00anonymous, thank you for the links. the encycloped...anonymous, thank you for the links. the encyclopedia link is amazing.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-30137237598839154242012-11-23T08:28:15.119-05:002012-11-23T08:28:15.119-05:00freethinker, great links. this is precisely the id...freethinker, great links. this is precisely the idea. zig zag progress.<br /><br />notice also that we do not hear about hezbollah. it was all hezbollah all the time for the past few years, the big boogeyman, and now hamas just suddenly pops out of nowhere and hezbollah goes quiet. <br /><br />there is reportedly tension between the two groups. <br /><br /><br />http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5irXVlNO0kfnpGzH1dzbW6V7H9HGA?docId=d31171c73d634e668ed57a93c1f7b057<br /><br />that bulgarian FALSE FLAG bus incident is coming back up because the result of the probe will determine if hezbollah can be branded afresh as terrorists.<br /><br />http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=145405<br /><br />A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-88448120927549448472012-11-23T07:12:37.144-05:002012-11-23T07:12:37.144-05:00just to cut to the chase...
when exactly did the ...just to cut to the chase...<br /><br />when exactly did the children of israel transform into the gog & magog khazar proselytes to talmudic judaism ?<br /><br />http://www.armyenlist.com/mos/intelligence-analyst-intel-analyst/<br /><br />for those who would like some tactical nukes of TRUE info...<br /><br />http://palestine-encyclopedia.com/EPP/Start.htm<br /><br />properly administered this tactical nuke info will reduce the zionist TALMUDIC lies to ashes...<br /><br />http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/ISAAC-13.htm<br /><br />can't seem to pull up Boaddicea..<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDrNQcG_RS4&feature=related<br /><br />neighborhood watchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-2958944123819352532012-11-23T05:56:13.757-05:002012-11-23T05:56:13.757-05:00Here is an example of the Zig-Zag Dialectic showin...Here is an example of the Zig-Zag Dialectic showing the evolution of communism in the USSR:<br /><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20061016151017/http://home.att.net/~sdgross/marx/dialectic.gif" rel="nofollow">Marxist Dialectic</a> diagram,<br /><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090103113631/http://www.etext.org/Politics/ZigZag/zigzag-2.1" rel="nofollow">Zig-Zag</a> text.freethinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-83968094475210028642012-11-22T12:36:03.756-05:002012-11-22T12:36:03.756-05:00Hi freethinker,
Yes that is the insight i had also...Hi freethinker,<br />Yes that is the insight i had also, that the timeline is stretched so long, with periods of inactivity, that the overall progression is hardly noticed. But when examined from enough distance, the course appears. <br /><br />This snails pace makes it seem that it cant be orchestrated, but of course students of history know that we are dealing with creatures who make very long term plans. A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-48642160622002352542012-11-22T11:49:38.470-05:002012-11-22T11:49:38.470-05:00Tacking back and forth between Hamas and Israel - ...Tacking back and forth between Hamas and Israel - its the Dialectic again. The dialectic might be a one-off synthesis of thesis and anti-thesis but its more likely to be repeated ad-nauseam; back and forth, left and right over and over so that the careless observer doesn't notice the net 'progress' in one intended direction.<br /><br />Similar metaphors-<br />going up a steep hill by a switch-back road;<br />or more gruesome, my favourite, the pendulum of E.A.Poe - swish, click, swish, click, swish, click...oh bugger!<br /><br />freethinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-76620773518228641262012-11-21T14:25:04.677-05:002012-11-21T14:25:04.677-05:00that's sad about the girl. well, time to look ...that's sad about the girl. well, time to look over the initial reports... thanks Edo.A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-87705107896844980112012-11-21T13:43:32.285-05:002012-11-21T13:43:32.285-05:00It was a BBC Radio 4 news broadcast at around 5pm ...It was a BBC Radio 4 news broadcast at around 5pm (i was driving home from work) and I distinctly remember the reporter saying the bomb was thrown onto the bus, with the perp making a getaway. An Israeli spokesman said a girl had lost an arm and others were injured from shrapnel. <br /><br />EdoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-9969955699792635832012-11-21T13:14:13.365-05:002012-11-21T13:14:13.365-05:00many thanks Edo. exactly correct about the Tel Avi...many thanks Edo. exactly correct about the Tel Aviv attack. i have just unpacked a ridiculous little story here:<br /><br />http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Amid-Gaza-diplomacy-bomb-blasts-Tel-Aviv-bus-4055588.php<br /><br />i might put a post up about it. it extends the narrative further. but i want to leave this post up top for now.<br /><br />do you have a link for the "thrown" reference? love those little inconsistencies.<br /><br />just a few observations:<br /><br />how do they know the man put the bomb on the bus and got off? or threw the bomb? witnesses? how can they not find him in tel aviv in broad daylight in front of the military hq?<br /><br />so LUCKY that no one was killed huh? 27 wounded only 3 seriously. <br /><br />and does hamas *really* want to open the borders? wouldn't that wreck their lucrative tunnel business? wouldn't that drain a lot of hamas economic and political power? hmm. we are not seeing how this all makes sense unless hamas, at the top levels, is on the payroll.<br /><br />A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-26911035603685082212012-11-21T13:04:27.219-05:002012-11-21T13:04:27.219-05:00Without trying to sound like a broken record, anot...Without trying to sound like a broken record, another excellent piece AP. Though I've come to expect no less!<br /><br />A report on the radio today about a bomb having been 'thrown' onto an Israeli bus but the identity of the perpetrator not being known.... Hmmm, very convenient. <br /><br />And as for those pesky rockets! <br /><br />According to Wikipedia (I know, I know) Since 2001 there have been an alleged 12,791 rockets coming out of Gaza, with effect of 61 dead and 1,719 injured. Hardly a successful strategy. <br /><br />Edo<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-53896349693247105412012-11-20T20:35:08.297-05:002012-11-20T20:35:08.297-05:00also worth noting that the uproar over the israeli...also worth noting that the uproar over the israeli informants killed by hamas makes no mention of the Qatar gifts. A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-23025403141447115412012-11-20T20:22:28.374-05:002012-11-20T20:22:28.374-05:00excellent points. it is always useful to think abo...excellent points. it is always useful to think about what *should* have happened but didn't. there has been plenty of time for hamas to think about and create effective strategies of resistance, and they obviously have all these tunnels at disposal, so what exactly is their excuse? <br /><br />a compromised strategy and stupid tactics only seem to get a lot of palestinians killed, and for what.<br /><br />now we are seeing a lot of hype about the israeli spies killed in Gaza and their bodies dragged around.<br /><br />http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1290316--gaza-conflict-hamas-militants-kill-6-suspected-informers-for-israel-reports<br /><br />hamas informants working for israel -- not recommended! because it is evil. but the focus in western media is, naturally, the brutality of hamas for executing them. the daily mail has about ten pics with the warning, graphic photos, as they go ahead and show pic after pic because it makes hamas look like villians, and the IOF of course is so sweet dropping pamphlets and telling the palestinians that they certainly do not want to harm them or their families. <br /><br />also more about events in Jordan here:<br /><br />http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3463/jordan-king-abdullah<br /><br />these links found at there are no sunglasses.<br /><br />A. Peasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929646095992796530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-481838326205496616.post-67167935732177569782012-11-20T18:33:13.838-05:002012-11-20T18:33:13.838-05:00Excellent article, Peasant!
That move of Meshaal ...Excellent article, Peasant!<br /><br />That move of Meshaal out of Syria was indeed a "look-there" moment. At the beginning of the violence there, people around Meshaal forced Palestinians to go protest at the israeli border, and the israelis shot a bunch of them according to accounts.<br /><br />If the Hamas was all that pro-Palestinian they'd behave different. Already in the 2009 massacre they shot perhaps thousands of rockets at israel and caused minimal damage, this time around same thing. To me it makes no sense at all because immediately north of Gaza is the Zikim training base and just north is a giant refinery. If they hit the refinery good, and it is indefensible against even a modicum of the crappy rockets they use, Hamas could put out the lights in half israel and damn the consequences because Palestinians in Gaza really have nothing left to lose. Second thing is they apparently haven't even tried to build tank traps at the borders, third thing is they have also apparently failed to even attempt to put all military age males AND females into military training and build a militia, what would be the first thing I'd do in their situation. All that and the general complaints from Gazans that they are being bled dry by that parasitic mafia makes Hamas more than suspect as you say.<br /><br />There is also another angle on al-Thani, a Palestinian view. When the Sheikh went to Gaza it was apparently to propose Hamas to create an Emirate (islamic principality) and obviously to show that they have diplomatic support. Due to that act alone, Abbas, who is generally looked at like a turd due to his unbridled looting of the Palestinians in the West Bank and his craven collaboration with the israelis, went to his israeli masters and incited them to attack Gaza in order to keep his status with them - it would not be out of character, and he did exactly that back in the runup to the 2009 massacre.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com