"(Regaining) the Sinai peninsula with its present and potential resources is therefore a political priority which is obstructed by the Camp David and the peace agreements." ~ 1982
To be clear, he means that peace OBSTRUCTS Israel's goals.
To be clear, he means that peace OBSTRUCTS Israel's goals.
All credit to Noor and Chuckyman for the the info.
Checking in on Egypt...
How does the master plan seem to be going? Not ready to invade Sinai just yet?
According to the Q&A article from Reuters, Mubarak seems to have gained the upper hand for now.
The opposition has won the following concessions:
1. Mubarak will not run again for president.
2. His son Gamal has been ruled out as successor.
3. A VP, Suleiman, has been appointed for the first time.
4. Protesters can roam the streets "almost with impunity."
Appointing Suleiman appears to be a shrewd move by Mubarak. It bought him some time. It keeps Israel at bay for the time being.
However, Mubarak does not want to cede power to Suleiman but has pushed the opposition groups into a framework for discussions. Mubarak appears to be dictating the timetable of September.
Who composes the opposition?
Many young people from Egypt, informally organized if they are organized at all, along with organized groups and parties.
OPERATIVES would be mixed in throughout, especially in the organized groups.
By clinging onto power, Mubarak forces the informally organized young people into the arms of more organized and controlled groups for the purpose of negotiating with the state.
The MB took a back seat during the early part of the protests but is now negotiating with the government.
Originally the MB ruled out talking to Mubarak, but then the Brotherhood changed it's tune. Some members grumble that the MB leadership caved in to government trickery. Perhaps they do not consider that the MB is run by spooks. They didn't "cave in" by accident or trickery. They need to be part of the new government in order to weave the radical Islamist narrative that will JUSTIFY some further violence against the people of Egypt.
Meanwhile, the talks with the government are getting bogged down in procedural details that could take months to sort through.
It appears that some of the protesters have been able to avoid some of the traps laid for them. It is important to note that the protesters seem very reasonable, even though reportedly something like 300 people have been killed. Perhaps peaceful and reasonable protesters was not what the provocateurs had in mind? It makes it a little harder to JUSTIFY cracking down.
Behind the angry protests
Tamim Khalifa, age 20, says that the protesters are for all Egyptians, rich and poor.
"This is not a revolution of the poor or hungry, it’s a revolution for people from all walks of the Egyptian life, both poor and rich. It is great to see that no one here is afraid."Tamim wants Mubarak to leave and a coalition government to run Egypt until elections in September.
Mosaab El Shami, age 20, also says the demands are for all Egyptians. He expresses patience.
"I don’t expect that all of my hopes or dreams will be achieved. There will be some changes for the better, but it will be a long process filled with a lot of obstacles."
Nadia El Awadi, age 42, mother of four, remarks on the unprecedented unity of Egyptians and the atmosphere of love.
"People from different backgrounds and factions are supporting each other, encouraging each other and acting as one; an unprecedented scene in Egypt. The atmosphere here in the Square is filled with love."
She does not trust the regime, even though it has done some good things.
"This regime might have did some good things in the past, but that does not erase all the bad things we endured over the years. I believe the move towards democracy will take more than I year, but I hope what has happened has put us on the beginning of the road."
Mohammed Abdel-Aziz, age 33, was impressed with the organized and peaceful demonstrations. He would like to see them choose a leader from amongst themselves.
"I was so impressed by how organized and civil this group of youth is and how peaceful their demonstrations were. I hope the youth of the January 25th movement calm down, and be proud of what they have achieved so far. They also have to regroup and choose a leader from among them to start a dialogue with the new government in order to move forward."
Tamer El Demerdash, age 36, describes the atmosphere as "magnificent."
"The atmosphere in Tahrir Square is magnificent."
"I have been at the Square for the past four days. Protestors are maintaining the cleanliness of the place, sharing food and doctors are providing medical assistance to the wounded on the ground. The thugs are still around us, on Thursday they were blocking all the supporters from bringing in any food or medicine into the Square and throwing it in the Nile, but we found alternative routes to keep the supplies coming."
"The president is playing with our emotions… and the Egyptian state TV is filled with lies. They are using the Muslim Brotherhood card to strike fear into us, but I am telling you that even though they are with us (protesters), they are not imposing their ideas on us, and even if they do, we won’t allow them."
"I am hoping that President Mubarak steps down and relinquishes power to Vice President Omar Suleiman. When the regime goes down, we should regroup and figure things out with the help of the Committee of Elders."
Angham Abdel-Nasser, age 19, was not allowed to participate because his family feared for his safety.
"I want everyone in Tahrir Square that the best thing right now is dialogue (with the regime) to achieve our goals with the least possible losses. All I hope now is that President Mubarak lives up to his words and that the next 7 months pass by peacefully."
Mohammed Tarek, age 24, talks about the HUMILIATION that Egyptians have endured.
"I came to Tahrir Square along with the millions of Egyptians who are pouring in from all over to put an end to the humiliation they have endured over the past few decades and to help Egypt regain its stature. I witnessed the terror that the protestors were subjected to from the regime, before they try to play mind games with us to sympathize with this old president. I hope that Mubarak will step down, in fact I truly believe he will step down."
Ahmed Salah, age 34, notes how the protesters were attacked.
"I came to Tahrir Square to see for myself the truth that the regime is trying to taint. I saw the thugs on Wednesday come in on camels and horses and attacking the protestors."
"It started as a beautiful day, and we were trying to convince our fellow protestors that we achieved what we want and the demonstrations should come to an end, until the attacks occurred, which changed everything. I don’t think President Mubarak is stupid to do something like this, but if this says something, it says that he is not the only one calling the shots. That is why we cannot trust any words or promises from this regime."
"I believe that things will calm down unless the government does something stupid."
"I want the protestors to go home and negotiations for a new constitution to commence, followed by early parliamentary and presidential elections."
Some of the protesters see some of the traps. Violent, scary Muslims? We don't think so.
Then again, we don't know if some of these people are the types funded by the many US grants to Egypt. Perhaps that explains why they can make sense and then suddenly want to see power in the hands of Suleiman, for instance. Bad plan. Some protesters may be sincere but confused, others may be completely insincere, and still others, we hope, may be sincere and NOT CONFUSED.
An article by Thierry Meyssan at Voltaire.net, via Arthur Zbygniew, gives us more context.
Excerpts from Egypt on the brink of a bloodbath (we hope not - ed.)
Fourthly, western media are discovering rather late that the Islamic threat is merely a scarecrow. ...In collusion with the United States, the Saudis funded sectarian Muslim groups that preached for a resurgence of Seventh-century society as they dreamed of it during the era of Prophet Muhammad. They have just as much impact in the Arab World as the Amish in the United States, with their horse and buggy....The Middle East populations have no intention of replacing the police and military dictatorships that have crushed them with a religious dictatorship. So, there is no Islamic danger.
...Fifthly, with all due respect to certain observers, even if social issues are again in the forefront, the ongoing movement cannot be reduced to simply a matter of class struggle. ...At the present juncture, the struggle against the Zionist project overrides the question of class interests. Moreover, more than wealth distribution, the protesters are challenging the pseudo-liberal capitalist system imposed by the Zionists.
...Sixtly, reverting to the situation in Egypt, Western media threw themselves at Mohamed ElBaradei, hailing him as the leader of the opposition. That’s laughable! Mr. ElBaradei enjoys a respectable reputation in Europe for having held out against the Bush administration for some time, without ever completely opposing it. He incarnates the good conscience of Europe with respect to Iraq, considering its flip-flop stance over the war. Objectively, however, Mr. ElBaradei is a luke-warm personality who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize only to keep Hans Blix from getting it. Most important, he doesn’t carry any weight inside his own country. His only political existence is limited to his role as spokesperson of the Muslim Brotherhood in front of the Western media.
The United States have come up with opponents who are more representative, such as Ayman Nour, whom they will soon pull out of a hat, despite the fact that his defense of pseudo-liberal economic policies disqualifies him in light of the crisis that is ripping the country.
In any event, there are only two mass organisations with any real popular roots, which have for a long time spoken out against the current policies: on the one hand, the Muslim Brotherhood and, on the other, the Coptic Christian Church (even though H.H. Pope Shenouda III distinguishes between Mubarak’s Zionist policies which he opposes and the Rais figure that he accepts to deal with). This detail escaped the Western media which were too busy persuading public opinion that the Copts were being persecuted at the hands of the Muslims while they were, in fact, being victimised by the Mubarak dictatorship.
At this point, a small digression is in order: Hosni Mubarak has just named Omar Souleyman vice-president. It is a measure aimed at rendering more difficult his eventual physical ousting by the United States. Mubarak became president because he had first been designated vice-president before the United States had president Anwar El Sadat taken out by Ayman al-Zawahiri’s group. Consequently, he has until now always refused to appoint a vice-president for fear of being assassinated in turn. Omar Souleyman being the chief architect of Egypt’s collaboration with Israel, Washington and London are likely to protect Mubarak like the apple of their eye.
What is more, Souleyman can lean on Tsahal against the White House. He has already arranged for the arrival of Israeli material and snipers, ready to kill the ringleaders among the crowd.
...It should be noted that over the last two years, Israeli strategists have been concocting a foul trick. Considering that Egypt is a social time bomb, that revolution is both inevitable and imminent, they planned to facilitate a coup d’Etat in favour of an ambitious and incompetent officer. In their scheme, the latter was supposed to launch an abortive war against Israel. Tel-Aviv would thus have recovered its military prestige and reconquered Mount Sinai with its natural riches. But Washington is resolutely against this scenario, which would be too difficult to control.
Be then as wise as snakes, and as gentle as doves.
We must be highly skeptical while at the same time retaining hope that something different will happen one of these times. Otherwise, why blog? Why bother paying attention and writing it down? We would just sit on the couch and watch teevee if we believed the situation was hopeless.