4/23/11

alien fail

A family went to Disney World in the early 1970s. A little girl we know asked her dad if they really took a trip to the moon on one of the rides. He said, “What do you think?” The little girl told him that she had been watching that building ALL DAY and had yet to see a spaceship take off or land.



What is the logic behind this alien agenda? Let’s unpack it. This will be a little exercise in following the logic through to conclusions and seeing if it makes sense. This is not about EVIDENCE, specifically, it’s just about the narrative, and what we’ve been told, and whether that story makes sense, given what we know.

The logic of the narrative provides the evidence.

Let us commence with a simple question.

Do aliens exist? If yes, then are they good or bad?

As we are into the narratives of the existence of aliens rather than the evidence of their existence (which could keep us here for weeks), let's assume for the moment they exist and go straight to thinking through “Are They Good?”

Let’s start with the basics. What do we know?

Lately we have heard a lot about the DISCLOSURE narrative, which says that someone needs to force the government to come clean with what they know about the aliens. Why would the government want to withhold the truth about aliens? Why does the government want to keep the truth about aliens a secret? One argument says it is to avoid a massive panic. Alien disclosure will “change everything.” Therefore, this disclosure must be timed just right in order to manage the changes properly. This pre-planning stage seems to take a very long time. So long that it seems that the aliens, if they are in touch with the government as we’re told by the disclosure people, are COOPERATING in the timing of the disclosure. Otherwise, they would have used their superior technology to make themselves known to everyone before now. But they haven’t done that. Therefore they are cooperating with our leaders in the timing of their disclosure.

Now, why would the aliens do that? Because they also want to avoid the massive panic? Because they want to help our leaders to manage the disclosure most effectively? Because everyone wants the best for us? So they’re working together, and everyone has only the highest motives of cooperation, and therefore the aliens are good, just like our leaders?

Furthermore, if the aliens are bad, what could possibly stop them, with their vastly superior technology, from simply taking over? Why would they need to cooperate with our leaders? Because they believe that we will follow our leaders in a crisis, and therefore they need our leaders to provide this service?

So we infer there is cooperation, but it’s not clear what motivations drive that.

 http://www.disclose.tv/forum/very-old-ufo-s-over-the-great-pyramids-t26740.html


Many people would like to believe that the aliens will help us, and they will work together with our leaders, who also want to help us (cough), and together they will improve planet earth and solve many problems with the aliens' superior, god-like technologies and ways. 

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/more-predicted-ufo-sightings-over-new-york-confirm-et-will-intervene-ecology

Therefore, our leaders, even if they have a few small failings from time to time, will finally “see the light” and cooperate with the aliens. Expect hopey-changey on steroids. People have been conditioned to believe such things (thank you Hollywood) despite the evidence that, at least in this country, every leader seems to be worse than the one before, and this planet lurches from one disaster to the next with ever-increasing frequency. Alien disclosure, however, is the ultimate “problem” which will transcend all divisions in its necessary solution. It is the ultimate Rally Round the Flag event, except this time the flag is planet earth. Whether the aliens are good or bad, we HUMANS will all have to agree that we are One Big Happy Family. Win win.

Looking happy!
sharetv.org


Let’s say the aliens are good and obviously highly advanced creatures. And they have super advanced technology, obviously, since they traveled to our planet. There’s a whole line of reasoning about this that we learned in college, a long time ago. We remember it pretty well. It goes like this:

There is science beyond nuclear science, but there’s a problem. Nuclear science is dangerous. Any civilization must get past nuclear science without blowing up their planet. Only beings who have overcome any warlike tendencies can get past the nuclear age without annihilating each other, like we have been doing here on earth. So there’s a formula for guessing the number of advanced civilizations in the universe (N), and the formula depends on how long advanced civilizations last at the nuclear age before destroying themselves. So far we have made it about sixty years, and it’s ugly. It’s been sixty years of bad road, because unfortunately, we humans seem to have WARLIKE tendencies. This belief is constantly enforced. And if we are warlike, other civilizations must also be warlike and prone to conflict. Therefore, if any advanced alien civilizations exist, odds are they would be exceedingly few and far between, and therefore far away. Thus, N is a very small number. N turned out to be the number of years that WE HUMANS could survive the nuclear age. In other words, it was a theory of the universe that revolved around us, as though we are the center of the universe. (We think this odd quality was why we remembered it all these years.) Therefore, let’s say N=60, the approximate length of time humans have limped along with nuclear science. Sixty advanced civilizations in the entire universe. What would be the odds that any would be close enough to contact us? Very exceedingly slim, given the size of the universe. Not to mention they would have to overcome traveling at the speed of light, etc. in order to find us. So the conclusion was that advanced civilizations probably did exist, but they would be exceedingly rare, and therefore there was little hope that they would find us.

This was just one theory we learned in college, and surely there are many others, but this particular theory was the topic of an entire semester, so we think it might have been one of the more important theories at the time. But somehow, despite this weird theory we learned in college, all this obviously worked out and the aliens are here! They found planet earth, so they must be extremely highly advanced and therefore good, because they overcame their warlike tendencies, and so they overcame the nuclear age without destroying themselves, and now they have technology that can overcome the speed of light!! Oh joy!!! And our leaders are meeting with them in secret!!! Soon they will surely share all their goodies with us and lead us to the land of milk and honey!!!!

 http://frankmccourts.blogspot.com/2010/05/puppies-and-flowers.html

Let’s go with that. So if the aliens are good, and they found earth sixty years ago, or at least that is when they crashed their first ship in Roswell, New Mexico, what is their rationale for remaining secret from all of humanity, which obviously they have been doing? If they overcame their warlike nature to conquer and surpass nuclear science, can’t they see that we are having a problem here with all the psychopaths in charge? Can’t they see that we are having trouble with the whole nuclear science hurdle? Are they not floating over Fukushima in their spaceships this very minute, measuring the radiation and converting it into something harmless? Did they not notice Chernobyl and the ONE MILLION humans who died as a result of that? And according to the narrative that says these aliens exist and have been meeting with our leaders in secret over the years, why are these supposedly good aliens meeting with a bunch of corrupt psychopaths for decades, in secret, and sharing technology with corrupt psychopaths, in secret, when it is very obvious that our corrupt psychopath leaders have been abusing humanity for decades? WHY would supposedly good aliens go along with this?


Thanks for the help you’re a real pal.

Poor Pal!
FBI memo re-opening alien Roswell mystery, 4/11/11
http://todays-update.blogspot.com/2011/04/fbi-memo-re-opening-alien-roswell.html



Well, the aliens probably anticipated these sorts of questions. And perhaps the answer to that is some further story about honoring our free will. As in, they would really like to help us, but they can’t interfere. And we have to somehow overcome this problem ourselves through meditation, and expanding our consciousness. Maybe meditate on some crop circles, see if you can understand the esoteric symbolism? Concentrate. That’s all well and good and certainly TIME CONSUMING, one might be tempted to call it busy work. And except for the fact that they HAVE ALREADY interfered by meeting with corrupt psychopath leaders for decades and sharing alien technology which has gravely harmed the human population by creating a big giant advantage for the psychopaths, who by the way interfere with our free will every single day... Yes, except for all that, they haven’t interfered.

 http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2009/10/06/crop-circles-solved/


Furthermore, this ‘honoring our free will’ narrative bears a striking resemblance to certain religious beliefs. Does it not? Are the aliens so highly advanced that they are god-like in their desire not to interfere, aside from the fact that clearly they do interfere? Compare that to the prophets. Billions of people throughout history believed that God sent his prophets with his instructions for humans, and these instructions have a lot to say about free will. One billion Christians on earth today believe that God came here himself, in Jesus Christ, with very specific answers and instructions for humanity. Since none of these prophets used any technology, and taught openly, we’re not sure why people would decide to believe in secret high tech aliens all of a sudden, except that the technology will probably seem miraculous, giving the aliens an edge over those old prophets. We expect that given the right cataclysmic event stampeding people into panic and chaos, aliens coming through to save the day could really open up a dynamic of worship and gratitude.

NASA Scientists Slam '2012'
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2011/01/03/nasa_scientists_slam_2012_
"NASA scientists have named John Cusack's blockbuster 2012
as the most "absurd" sci-fi film of all time."

However, what about the OPPORTUNITY COST? What has been the OPPORTUNITY COST for the supposedly good aliens to remain silent, all these years, and in secret collaboration with our so-called leaders? What has NOT HAPPENED as a result of this decision to remain hidden? Well let’s see. Let us count the ways, or the bodies.

How much of the alien technology could have been helping humans all this time, if it had not been kept secret from humanity, and only shared with the military? Just imagine if we had clean food, clean water, and free energy? Can anyone seriously argue that mankind would have been much better off if these supposedly good aliens had shared their cool technology with EVERYONE all this time, instead of only sharing it with the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX?

What are these aliens thinking? Can’t they figure out that we are in the grip of total psychopaths? How is it that WE lowly humans are able to understand this, but these supposedly brilliant and highly advanced aliens can’t wrap their giant minds around this simple observation?

Something is wrong with this whole line of reasoning about the good aliens. Truly good and advanced aliens would not have behaved the way the supposedly good aliens have already behaved. The FACTS of the case makes more sense if the aliens are BAD. Then at least we can understand why they have made the decisions that they have supposedly made. Then at least their behavior is consistent with the FACTS ON THE GROUND.

The aliens are bad. They have failed to do some things they could have done, a simple concept which every HUMAN CHILD at the age of reason can grasp, and certainly a concept addressed by religion.

Confiteor Deo omnipotenti, (I confess to almighty God)
et vobis fratres, (and to you my brothers and sisters)
quia peccavi nimis cogitatione, (that I have greatly sinned)
verbo opere et omissione: (in my thoughts and in my words, in what I have done and what I have failed to do)
mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. (through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault.)


Delicious lunch courtesy of: The Empire.


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Let’s move on to the question of whether the aliens actually exist.

Well, first of all, could humans have developed this technology that we perceive as alien technology? We think that is entirely possible and in fact we think YES.

Hopefully it is not controversial to assert that the military has secret technology. We can agree on that? They have stuff we don’t know about. After doing some research, a person would learn that there are black budgets. Further research would reveal that these black budgets come from laundered drug money, human trafficking, gun running, and other activities typically known as organized crime. These are not wild assertions. There is such a thing as a big black budget, and the military uses this budget, and one of the things they presumably use it for is to develop technologies that they keep secret.

Hopefully you are still with us.

We don’t know what the secret technologies are. We have read things to the effect that for each year of improved consumer technology, there’s a forty year advance in military technology. We don’t know what the actual number is. Maybe it’s only TWICE as good as consumer technology, each year, year after year. Even if it was only twice as advanced, eventually there would be a huge gap between consumer technology and military technology. We don’t know how big the gap is. We just know that, at a minimum, it would be huge after a period of years. It is possible that military technology is advanced beyond the comprehension of all but a very few people on the planet. We suspect that is the case, given the size of the black budgets, and given how long the military has been interested in secret technologies. This means that IF we saw something that was part of the military’s secret technology, let’s say something that looked like a UFO, we might reasonably conclude that it must be alien technology, because our reference point is consumer technology, which is far behind military technology.

So that is ONE logical conclusion. If any of this secret technology is spotted, it must belong to aliens. You might notice that that particular conclusion has been WELL SUPPORTED by the alien narrative for a long time. This narrative has been in place officially for decades, going back to Area 51 and Roswell. This narrative tells us that the government knows about aliens, but has kept this knowledge secret. And it goes without saying, but we will say it anyway, that the aliens also know about us, since they are the ones who traveled here using their superior technology.

Look what Tesla discovered a hundred years ago. Think of all the patents that people have filed which are never heard from again. Patents for clean energy, water purification, etc. What happens to all these world-changing discoveries? Where do they go? Do you remember the giant warehouse at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark? The ark gets crated up and stored in the warehouse? Why would Hollywood use that imagery? It stuck in our brain because it was SO DISTURBING.



"As society becomes increasingly fragmented, we look evermore towards the media to tell us what we have in common.  Eventually, all we have in common is the media."
http://kittensincarbonite.wordpress.com/2011/02/22/nostalgic-for-nostalgia/

Let’s suppose there are some technologies which would have a logarithmic effect on advances. Let’s suppose that once Tesla made his discoveries a hundred years ago, that those discoveries opened up entirely new avenues of other technologies. Does anyone suppose that, given the unlimited black budgets made available to scientists, in the course of a hundred years, that things would have been discovered that would strike the rest of us as amazing, mind-bending ALIEN technology? In particular, just one area of science like gravity, would be enough to break through into a whole new world of science? And in fact, that we have read about people who say this very thing, that they have discovered that the science we are taught about gravity is ALL WRONG?

How about the science we’ve been taught about global warming? All wrong. Has anyone had a gander at the Explando Planet model, which is very different from what we have been taught? What about the things we’ve been told about how buildings explode? Have some of those things we've been taught been ALL WRONG ALSO?

Does it not seem that we are fed a bunch of bullshit in many areas? Including science? Yes, yes it does.

We think a very good case can be made that the aliens don’t exist at all. We think the IDEA of aliens, the alien narrative, is simply very useful to the elite, and that is why it has been so thoroughly developed, from scary to funny, and everything in between.

Crochet Alien...could it be any cuter?
http://www.etsy.com/listing/69292649/crocheted-alien-pattern


For one thing, it has allowed them to pursue all this secret technology without sharing. They don’t have to share because a “race” narrative has been set up, as well as a possible “threat” narrative. In this narrative, we know the aliens exist, and we know the government knows, and we know the government is keeping some big secret. We don’t know if the aliens are good or bad. We hope they are good but they might be bad. We also hear there may be all different types of aliens, some good some bad, to make things even *more* confusing. All this drama seems to JUSTIFY letting the government do some secret research and have some secret technology. Because AFTER ALL, they represent us and will protect us if the aliens turn out to be bad, right? And we want our military to be able to fight off those bad aliens just like in all those great Hollywood movies we’ve seen for decades, all that predictive programming. So if the aliens come and want to start some shit, we better be able to count on our boys having the appropriate anti-alien equipment to get us out of hot water. Thus, we love the military, so leave them alone, they will fight for our freedom even freedom from the evil aliens if it comes to that, and therefore whatever they’re doing in secret must be good….?

Well, all we can say is that an exceedingly convenient narrative for the military.

But what if there were no such thing as aliens? What would all this mean, all the things that have happened in the last few decades, if the TRUTH was found that there were no aliens, that HUMANS developed all this technology, kept it secret on purpose, and wove this elaborate alien narrative to deceive.


What would be the BENEFITS of doing this?

1. To create a huge gap in knowledge between the elite and the rest of humanity.

2. To allow humanity to suffer with pollution, war, death and destruction. To use this suffering to depopulate the planet as much as possible for as long as possible, while life-saving technology is kept hidden and reserved for the elite.

3. To build control through more and more levels. To keep people enslaved and fighting over oil and minerals, which are needed to support all the currency models ever seriously considered. Since a currency is always needed by the elite to enslave the people and keep scarcity going. If free energy were available, for instance, they could not do this. Therefore technologies that would reduce their power must always be suppressed from the masses.

4. To allow more and more problems to fester, requiring more and more solutions that they can always provide, costing money of course, and further enslaving the populations.

5. To shake people down every step of the way for every new advance in technology that they eke out with extreme parsimony.

6. Perhaps most importantly, the aliens provide the EXCUSE needed for doing all of the above. The aliens provide the SCAPEGOAT. It’s the ALIENS who have all the great technology, not our leaders. They try to keep up but that’s only to protect us in case the aliens turn out to be bad. They just don't know despite meeting with them in secret all these years. And regrettably the ALIEN technology is not available to humanity. Maybe someday it will be, wouldn’t that be nice. We could really use the help. Hopefully the aliens turn out to be good. Inexplicably, we just don't know despite all those secret meetings.

So you see, the ALIENS provide the cover for all this psychopathic behavior. The ALIENS make it all possible. That’s why there must be aliens, people. It’s the biggest fucking racket of all time.

Because otherwise, if the aliens don’t exist, you would have to understand that they – the elite, the so-called humans in power -- are developing all this technology for a hundred fucking years and holding it back from the rest of humanity -- obviously in collaboration with each other to keep it hidden for so long -- for no good reason, but simply for the pursuit of power, and because they enjoy watching human beings suffer and die and live miserable lives in service to their control schemes.

Human beings don’t behave this way. Human beings like to cooperate with each other. Cooperation has allowed humans to survive and thrive throughout history, often in the harshest conditions.

So in a sense, there *are* aliens, but you can also call them psychopaths. They're not from another planet. They're right here, and they've been here the whole time. 

They lack something common to humans. They lack conscience, which is essential for humanity to function and COOPERATE, and since they don't share this quality with humanity, they can pull this massive stunt off. They lose no sleep over all those opportunity costs, because WE are the ones who pay those costs. There’s no mystery to it. It’s them. It’s always been them, and only them. They know they are alien, meaning different, strange; so they went with that theme. Thus any aliens coming will be THEM, in their alien costumes, using the technology that they developed over a hundred years in secret.

And by their fruits shall you know them.

No doubt they will make a good show of being good and here to save the planet. No doubt they will perform some “miracles” to prove their bona fides, using the technology that they have long kept secret.

Such a contrast with Top Hat and Junk Shot.

WSJ graphic of high tech solution code-named: Top Hat


But keep in mind that the supposed aliens have already failed, and they have failed spectacularly, through their SINS OF OMISSION. If you believe the narrative that is being presented to us, and if you follow through the logic:

  • They have cooperated with bad people for decades.
  • And withheld life-saving technology.
  • And done nothing to help us.
  • While this planet became more polluted, more war torn, and more unstable.
Not Good. And we mean, NOT GOOD. Good beings don't behave that way. And it doesn't matter what sorry-ass excuse comes next. By cooperating with the destruction of this planet all these years, they have already proven that they are evil. The pattern of abuse has been established.

The logic of THEIR narrative provides the evidence. THEIR story doesn't hold together. Sorry but it's an ALIEN FAIL.

Toto pulls the curtain back!



Who wants us to believe in these aliens?
Who leaves the 'evidence' all around?
And why do they do that?
CUI BONO?



Their lack of humanity leaves the psychopaths with a huge blind spot in their understanding. They don’t understand love. It's obvious once pointed out. They simply don’t GET that the people who died, the animals who died, the beautiful places that were destroyed over all these years, by disease, war, poverty and everything else, were BELOVED by other people. Specifically and in general. Missed, mourned, lamented, remembered. And love doesn’t die. So they got rid of all these people and animals and places, very effectively we might add, and very cruelly, and they have also done a good job debasing humans in general so that many people are but shadows of the human beings they could be. But the LOVE REMAINS. Nothing has been erased in the human heart. Nothing. And even if a soul dies alone, unremembered, God still remembers. A sparrow cannot fall to the ground without God knowing. So nothing has been lost, and they have gained nothing with all their destruction, because they do not understand the reality of love, which cannot be destroyed by their evil. It simply displaces, like water. They can’t comprehend that the bonds of love all still exist and were in fact STRENGTHENED by the cruel ways they tried to rip God’s creation apart.


It was all noted. Every last thing.
http://www.dondougan.com/brokenthings01.html

But we know these things, and we are asking you to remember what you may have lost over the years. And we ask you to entertain the possibility that some people care, and some people don't, and we suggest that you should discern the difference. And in that discerning we defeat them.

In conclusion, we expect the supposed “good” aliens will have a narrative. It will be the war of good and evil all over again. But evil people say they are good, so how will you know who is who? Each one of us has to discern it. This will be the ultimate test.

We can't tell anyone how to do that exactly. One has to be in the habit of doing it all the time. One gets into that habit by being constantly abused and understanding who, what, when, where and how that happens. We would think more people would be in that habit, considering the state of the world, but natural defenses have been suppressed through many methods generally known as our "lifestyle."

We say, look at the whole picture, not just what happens next. Look at what should have happened, but didn't. Think your own thoughts. You were not made to be a slave, to worship other beings, and certainly not to worship beings who abuse you.

The resistance begins in your mind. Of all times, if this alien psyop should come to pass, please remember that the resistance begins in your mind. So think it through now. Don't wait for the day of perdition.



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Special thanks to James for his help organizing and editing.

54 comments:

TV is our true God said...

If the "aliens" get here to Earth maybe they'll tell NASA how they got through the Van Allen Radiation Belts surrounding our planet, without getting burnt to toast by the radiation; that's if they're flesh and blood, like we are.

Then NASA might actually be able to send men to places like, say, the moon.

Until then we can just keep believing anything that comes out of TV screens, including of course . . . Aliens!!!!
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Anon said...

The bad guys are not very subtle.

- Aangirfan

A. Peasant said...

so true. i added a little graphic at the end.

A. Peasant said...

oops, that was for TV is our true god.

i think they may overestimate their gifts at subtlety.

wendy said...

thanks a lot from france !
i hope more of us think like you !!

great work !

regards !

Avops said...

Great essay AP!

Thanks for keeping the Truth in "Truth Blogging"

BTW this would be a great essay to turn into a video ;-)

Anonymous said...

so what your actualy saying is that crochet aliens are not going to take over the world and we are stuck with psychopaths instead...
could we crochet the psychopaths? ,although my knitting skills are not up to much at the moment I would be prepared to learn from some ones nan,,,any offers people

respects neil

A. Peasant said...

haha, neil! that's a great idea!! quick everyone learn crochet :D

avops, glad you enjoyed. i don't have any video skills but i am open to collaborate. my skill level is the little teevee at the bottom with the circle and line. that's it. i am very proud of that.

wendy, thank you for reading and i'm glad you like it!

Anonymous said...

Hi Peasant,

have you also noticed that almost all the people involved in spreading the UFO lore during the past 50-60 years are or have been jews, this being the other thing they have in common apart from ties of some sort or other to the military or the secret services?

And further: how would you explain the it seems to be so that UFOs are mostly seen/reported in the USA/UK, other places having far smaller number of reports, even when comparing to num of inhabitants? Why would these "apparitions" or whatever they are care about human politics and political divisions which do not exist physically?

A. Peasant said...

it wouldn't surprise me at all but i'm not sure. who are the big names in UFO lore?

the focus on the US/UK is similar to chemtrails, which are apparently not a problem everywhere. conclusion being there are some populations that are more important to control than others. of course there is no rational explanation for why aliens would care about our ridiculous geopolitical squabbles, unless they are interested in power, which of course belies the whole song and dance that they are above it all. so, yeah. alien fail again.

VanguardThoughts said...

Profoundly insightful. My thanks.

A. Peasant said...

thank you very much vanguard.

A13 said...

Hi A.P
Awesome post,excellent information and an exceptional narrative on a dodgy narrative..I like this bit..

"The resistance begins in your mind. Of all times, if this alien psyop should come to pass, please remember that the resistance begins in your mind. So think it through now. Don't wait for the day of perdition"

Exactly Sister!!
I've always been suss of crop circles too, and obviously it's very clever technology/mathematics.

BRAVO for this Expose!!
Many and much thanks for this effort.
cheers A13

dublinmick said...

Suraci does not not take any comments anymore but I have to mention I am reading. I must say I am happy to be on his side bar. Steady on good soul.

A. Peasant said...

hullo A13! thank you. this one kept me busy for a few days unlike the usual throwing things up half-assed routine... i'm glad you like.

dubs, indeed it is hard to get a message to him. hope he sees it.

freethinker said...

Science for a century has been crippled by the adoration of Einstein and the abandonment of research into the 'aether'. I've never understood why the Michelson-Morley experiment was so readily accepted as proving the absence of the aether. I guess that the genuine genius Nichola Tesla must have given orthodox science an apoplectic fit. Electromagnetic hydrodynamics aka aether hydrodynamics thankfully although hindered has managed to survive orthodoxy.

'The John Searl Story' video is worth a viewing if you can find it. He claims to have invented an electrical generator that as a side-effect is an anti-gravity device.

Peter said...

**grinning uncontrollably**
Speaking of throwing things up half arsed AP. Yesterday, as you were toiling away on this essay on aliens, I was playing and found this TUNE.
Needless to say, a freaky syncronicity was occurring. (Look at title on that You tube video)
"festive neon gods" painted flowers" all timely, no?

A. Peasant said...

i will look it up freethinker, thank you. roger on tesla causing fits. they took that stuff and went directly into a hidey hole laBORatory, and it was never heard from again.

peter, good song! a little tough to make out the lyrics. love the bass. aliens and psychos. correct! AGAIN, no wonder we never heard from them again....

Saladin said...

I'm tellin' you Peasant, there ARE aliens, I saw them in that movie Skyline and they are coming to gobble us up any time now! PS, love the flower dog.

A. Peasant said...

Sal, we need to get our anti-alien weapons crocheted quickly then. please tell me you crochet!? :D

i love the dog too. and he looks like my dog too!

Saladin said...

I don't crochet but I do have a wide variety of gardening implements at my disposal. Beware the pitchfork of mass alien destruction!

A. Peasant said...

use what you have. that's good. that's scrappy. we're down with scrappy.

dayzero said...

Really good read . . .thanks!

Got the balance just right. . . .

I came to some similar conclusions .

http://kaleidascope-dayzero.blogspot.com/2010/10/mirage-men-book-review.html

veritas6464 said...

Hey Campo,...Great post:

Let’s say, for argument’s sake, that due to the obvious fact that the lucifer worshipping yiddish khazars are obsessively compulsive haters of anything Christian that this is an indefatigable indication that there is a not a conflict between aliens and humans but in its stead a conflict between angels and demons.
OK, if we accept this premise based upon the unbroken linear history of evidence of yiddish murderous brutality, duplicity, connivance and recidivist kleptomania toward Christians and their hard earned property and products, for over a millennium, then it is easier to discern a logical reason for the promotion of an Alien/Atheist/World Govt collusion that will result in “world peace” for those who are deemed to be worthy of saving, from say, an ecologically viable perspective (see anthropomorphic climate change), rather than a ‘productive unit’ perspective (see lazy yiddish slobs).

A bright shining lie has been the key to the success of EVERY yiddish khazar scam in history – exodus, the motive behind the crusades, the inquisitions, all the wars in Europe, the constant banishment from countries and principalities by the native residents of their yiddish guests since these mendicant ghetto trash first crept into eastern Europe approx’ a thousand years ago and of course the holohoax. And...last but not least, the current shadow world government that actually controls all the governments of the western world; the Third world notwithstanding.

So, what we can surmise from our hypothetical premise is that a big fucking bullshit hollywood sky-show will be used to intimidate the unwashed masses into submission and the Hegelian dialectic will be the method used to achieve global hegemony after the inception of this shock & awe program of exploiting cognitive dissonance on a world-wide scale:

The accession of the New World Order, will be televised!

Also, your formula failed to take into account Y as a variable that might affect survival of a given N planet by its presence or lack thereof – Y = Yiddish miscreants.

Oh, and who said that we are not the first? Why do we always get taught by suggestion (no evidence pro or con), that there are older more sophisticated worlds than ours – someone has to be the first, why not us? What if we are the first and it is us who will establish the precedents for all that follow, surely this makes it much more important that we do make the right decisions, and take the appropriate actions that will eliminate those free radicals that might compromise the probability of survival for any future N planets?

If we do accept though that we are not the first and aliens have been here for over 60 years, then the notion that they are here to help is made null and void by their discretion, only making their presence known and propagating a sensible plan for our future survival would be logical, logic being the discerning value here: Surely ‘time’ is an important factor when trying to avoid catastrophe? For example; it would not have been logical to allow the Bay of Pigs fiasco to pass without taking that opportunity to announce their presence and begin educating the population of earth.

end of transmission...

veritas

P.S. Saladin, watched it on Austar three nights ago - that movie was the worst load of nonsensical shyte I have ever seen or wasted five bucks ninety five on! Was their a narrative, perhaps a hidden message, a story-line? Sheezarz; mechanical squids, booger monsters, wtf? Utter crap!

Cheers mate.

A. Peasant said...

hey dayzero, i'm glad you liked it. i see that you have really been in the weeds with this stuff a long time. would love to pick your brain.

V, a conflict between humans and demons i would say. humans being capable of tremendous goodness and noble intent. this is why they are always trying to beat it out of us. i don't trust the angel business -- seems a little dicey to me. i say we stick with what we are: human beings, and we defeat them on that basis alone. good to see you btw...

Penny said...

Hey Ap, good job and very interesting.

If I may chime in?!

Oh never mind I will anyway.

The alien stuff is utter bullshit.

If there were "aliens" why would they cooperate with any of our so called leadership?

If they could come to earth from wherever, they are obviously way more advanced then us.

Therefore, they have no need to cooperate with our "elite" classes of asses.

This whole story is one big distraction, switch out aliens with some religious figure. It is all very interactive.

Here is the problem, we have leaders that are corrupt scum.
They would lie to us all to hang on to their power. Whatever it takes. To control us. They will use.

Did you happen to catch the latest alien war drivel movie straight out of the hollywood crapper?
Battle Los Angeles
What a piece of shit!! Really.

The entire movie felt like an advertisement for the marines, including appropriately placed posters reminding viewers to "support the troops" no matter who the "enemy" is.

That garbage must have been part of the programming. The management perception, for all this alien stuff that is making the rounds.

One word for it all

CRAP

aferrismoon said...

The Roswell alien or one of the first radiation victims. Just that u had it below text about Chernobyl.

Oddly Chernobyl mens 'wormwood' which in Revelations is a star , maybe it even crashes to earth.

Anyhow some photo-stories to do with Chernobyl:

http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2011/04/24/25-years-of-radiation/

http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2011/04/25/coming-back-to-chernobyl/

Weren't psychiatrists called 'alienists' many years ago?

cheers

chuckyman said...

An outstanding and powerful narrative A.P. and compellingly put.

I grew up watching Star Trek from the US and Dr Who from the Brits. I had been a believer all my life until about 5 years ago. Awakening from the collective slumber has forced me to question EVERYTHING.

I have to come to the awareness that science is another dogma fit only for mass consumption. Every major theory encompassing the ground below our feet, the origin of civilisation to the fire that lights the stars is BS. What were they doing studying and researching all that time?

I don’t have a fixed idea in my head but I feel there is a spiritual aspect to all of this. Darkness has stalked us all throughout our collective history. Not all the demons are the two legged ones. I feel that when they pull the big hoax on us there will be some element of all encompassing ‘God head’ figure voodoo crap.

I think posts like this really are vital as it’s an area many don’t investigate and it is a complete swamp of disinformation. You said it… think our own thoughts… we are not meant to be slaves.

A. Peasant said...

hey Pen. that's a very succinct shorter: CRAP!

"The entire movie felt like an advertisement for the marines..."

no doubt. enemies always needed.

ferris, i read somewhere this week that the little alien might have been a shaved monkey. ?

when i watched that documentary about Chernobyl a few weeks ago, even a couple of the robots that they sent out on the roof went berserk from the radiation and threw themselves off the building. totally creepy. haunting pics at your links.

C, yeah, it really is a spiritual battle more than anything. and to your question: What were they doing studying and researching all that time? haha, well, we shall see. i'm sure they are just dying to show us, to show off all THEIR cool toys.

jungle jane said...

Hey, AP, glad that the aliens have been shot down haw haw....anyway, an advanced race I'm sure would take a look at this planet and its murderous inhabitants and hit the road leaving skid marks. No landing, no taking samples for another coupla hundred years. why on earth would they bother?
Consorting with The Enemy - why would they; wouldn't they also have a higher consciousness, beyond wars murder, rape and pillage, and sniff out the bad guys - one would think - and shun them, should they find something to be able to speak about with them - they're probably not into derrivatives. Wouldn't they have some technology at their disposal - the time energy mass thingy that they could move matter, and themselves, without some cumbersome vehicle that would blow up on entry, by now? Sort of like, show off for us and charm us, persuade us barbarians that there is Another Way folks? somehow the science has never added up.

Nice flower dawg! Haw haw haw

dublinmick said...

I am going to have to be the local forum loony again I guess. I have wondered what would happen if they stage blue beam and the real aliens show up. There is no doubt they could try a stunt like this as they have the technology it seems.

Color me as one of those guys who does believe there are some real aliens out there,.... somewhere. What is on their mind I have no idea.

http://dublinmick.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/sitchin-and-the-disinformation-mill/

Anonymous said...

Our rulers need a scary foe to keep our war machine funded.
Evil Communists from 1945 to early 1990's kept us afraid.
Evil Muslim terrorists then got their turn.....people will tire of that lie soon enough.
Next up, aliens!


Penny, if you and a new SUV fully gassed up, loaded with guns, computers, cameras, canned food, and a music box were dropped onto an island with about one hundred chimpanzees, you would be the queen. But for how long?
Aliens may need our rulers as much as you would eventually need a chimp alliance.

Here is hoping that the twisted sense of humor from at least one alien faction, called for by Mick, materializes.
Lock Stock and Two Fucking Barrels meets Project Blue Beam.
Bring it on!!

Anonymous said...

US Warns Russia: “Aliens On Their Way, Will Be Here In 2012”

A Kremlin report detailing the meeting held between Prime Minister Putin and US Vice President Biden this past week shockingly reveals an American plea for Russian help in establishing an “Earth Wide” missile defense plan to protect our planet from an “alien invasion” expected in late 2012 after NASA satellites revealed an “incoming” fleet of “miles-wide” UFO’s that have entered our Solar System.

According to this report, the “communication signals” being passed between the giant asteroids 2010 SO16 and 2005 YU55 currently headed towards Earth, and which we reported on in our April 21st report “Awakening” Moon Shocks Scientists As Massive Asteroids Near Earth”, are “identical” to the deep-space transmissions previously described by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) as “confirming” an intelligent extraterrestrial race of beings other than human.

Most interesting to note in this report is the NSA release this past week of one of its most top-secret documents relating to these aliens titled “Key To The Extraterrestrial Messages” where the “21 symbols” used by these aliens in their “communications” seem to show that not one, but two distinct extraterrestrial are nearing our Earth.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1475.htm

A. Peasant said...

ha, stheriously. that's pretty funny. oh the drama.

dublinmick said...

I thought they had put Sorcha on medication but I guess not. Some things are just not to our knowing and little known to these American peoples!!! Maybe the Einhar warriors have already carted her off.

Sorcha makes logical discussion concerning aliens very hard. (there is such a thing right?)

Anyway as the bladerunner says, still riding the wave here boss. What the hell good is an apocalypse if you can't have some fun?

What good is it to be nuts if you cannot have any fun....Nietzsche

dublinmick said...

Apologies to bugger, I put the comments on the article under this one. Maybe I am entering a time warp or something Peasant.

dublinmick said...

You are going to love this one AP. I just got an automatically generated link to a piece via wordpress one of my articles showed up on.

The Extinction Protocol: 2012 and beyond LOL

Planetary tremors, tectonic plate movements and Yellowstone activity

http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/planetary-tremors-tectonic-plate-movements-and-yellowstone-activity/

james said...

Jungle Jane said, "should they find something to be able to speak about with them - they're probably not into derivatives."


hahahahahaha!!

thanks Jane.

Dave said...

I'm with Chuckyman on the spiritual dimension
which sadly gets overlooked in deference to all
the ways we're attacked mentally & financially.

Steve Gamble over at EquilibriaUK.com has some
interesting insights on the UFO scam in his 4th
article listed.

Put me down for belief in inter-dimensional beings
pass on the little green( gray? ) men.

Dave

A. Peasant said...

you are all too cool for school, to quote nobs, may he come back someday to blogtopia....

Dave, i'm with you on that. i mean obviously i believe in God. the whole alien thing is a metaphor for what's *really* going on. but who the hell is qualified to know these things? either all of us or none of us, seems to me. it comes down to each person's ability to suss and stand his or her ground.

go team.

and there may be some leetle green men somewhere too, far far away. they're just not the chaps under discussion.

Dublin Mick said...

Even the Gnostics were having a tough time with the Archons and the "alien force!"

In their attempt to intrude upon humanity, which has been ongoing for millennia, the Archons use a lot of bluff and bravado. They affect our minds to get us to believe they can do far more than they can actually do, but in so believing, we unwittingly surrender our power to them — the result is, they get their way with us, because we have betrayed our own capacities. Hence the Archons claim to rule over humanity, and even pretend to have been our creators, as is recounted in the Sumerian cunieform record of the Annunaki, accepted as true by Zecharia Sitchin and many other sincere investigators. The Dead Sea Scrolls, discovered in 1947 at the very moment the Nag Hammadi texts were initially recognized to be rare Gnostic materials, contain explicit accounts of direct threats posed by reptilians. For instance, the Testament of Amram:

http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/KundaliniForce.php

jungle jane said...

the fairy tales link was something! astounding that "good parenting" makes the fairy tales I loved politically incorrect, like Rumpelstilitskin - it's about naming the unnamable, and hearing the name renedered the little jew who turned everything into gold and took babies, harmless (in this story), so the queen could keep her baby. that was the swap - if you can't name me R keeps the baby because the king made that deal. I didn't see that on the list, BUT...those enchanting tales of good vs evil got me reading 50 some odd years ago for my entire life. and now they want to replace them with GOOP (a child's mind). And Hansel and Grettle faced the evil; bravely and courageoulsy and got home to their loving Dad and it got sorted out - the wicked mother who wanted to throw the children away is Dead. Mother's shouldnt' throw their children away for fear (war), Or Else. When I was at NYU an Iranian friend, who dropped out to go back to Persia, several of them actually did, gave me a book of Russian Fairy tales. Now they are something...really beautiful - for developing the right side of the brain - but would the school system even think of teaching Russian literature? har har. It's up to us. I see a lot of home schooling down here, but parents are even more restrictive in their choice of materials. like the Classics? nope. IT seems as though parents home shool to shield children from reality, with destructive consequences. Look at the Russian fairy tales some day, AP, they're artistic, and written for opening the creative part of the brain. Words are all we have passageways to clear thinking and communicating, which we love, whether we find cake or a witch or cake and a witch harhar..hugs

A. Peasant said...

what if the aliens were not like humans. like what if they were like blobs. what if they had no hands or brains or mouths or any of that fun stuff that we take for granted.

-- A. Peasant's daughter

wow. just spent like half hour trying to find this. *blonde* phail.

Anonymous said...

If I remember correctly, I recall reading something in the bible about in biblical times what were referred to as aliens were Hebrews, or is it Jews. I can't recall because I think one and the same. With that alone, your theory makes total sense to me.

A whole year after the narrative, but it is an awesome perspective. I love your writing.

Snooky

A. Peasant said...

thank you snooky.

BlackShadowSnoopy said...

Just in case this didn't go through earlier..I'll do this again. This is a most excellent and entertaining blog, I really enjoyed it. You make perfect logical sense to me in going down the trains of thought as to looking at the "alien narrative". I love that. If I might add a little in looking at the 'alien evidence' or more specifically the widespread "alien abduction experience phenomena", I've found the reports are amazingly similar to my personal experience with what some call "Sleep Paralysis". I won't go into detail here, but many years ago I experienced an attack from something evil in my room, a dark spirit which terrorized me and then to my surprise even gave me a vision. I know how crazy this may sound, but I know many people have had similar experiences. So what has this to do with the subject of aliens you ask ? Well, the many cases I've read about and peoples testimonies of their attacks are extremely similar to mine, except they saw "aliens", but they too exprienced paralysis and sometimes visions as well. I believe these being are one and the same ! There I said it. If you would like to see some more evidence on this, please check out a video on YouTube called "Sleep Paralysis - How to Stop it - Treatment - Help - Causes"

Also, one last thing. There is a website where people have been freed from being terrorized by these "alien" abductions and attacks at "AlienResistence at dot org/ce4 htm

This site has testimonies of people who were being terrorized by these "aliens"...as believers in Jesus as their Savior, they stood on the authority of His name over the demons and they immediately left. Praise be to God !
It's time for people to be set from the oppression of these devils!

A. Peasant said...

hi black shadow snoopy. thanks for your comment. i did watch the video and long comment short, i agree. as a Christian i do practice what i guess we can call spiritual hygiene, every day, sweeping the room so to speak. as acknowledged in the video, not everyone is ready for this sort of information. a lot of people have to learn the truth via reason and intellect, and only later do they grasp the spiritual dimension of it. i try to reach people using reason and logic, knowing that if glimpse the truth and commit to it, they will find it eventually.

P2P said...

what a long read! thank you for this. I am fully of the same opinion that 'we' possess tech much more advanced than popularly thought. an interesting speech with the topic of "Worlds Above and Below: How A Secret Civilization Broke Away From Our Own," can be found from,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgU94ZkgB8E

I'll use the concept of a "breakaway civilization" elaborated in the talk above in the rest of this comment to try to sort out a point I have in the back of my head. couple of the premises from this piece by you, and I'll quote you:

1. "Let’s say the aliens are good and obviously highly advanced creatures. And they have super advanced technology, obviously, since they traveled to our planet."
2. "Only beings who have overcome any warlike tendencies can get past the nuclear age without annihilating each other, like we have been doing here on earth."

the issue I have with this is that it assumes that a highly developed civilizations is a technological civilization as we understand technology in a limited sense - as mechanistic technology. I am of the opinion that space extends both outwards and inwards from our individual perspectives, respectfully. meaning: I could build a spaceship using materials found outside of myself, hammers and nails and such, or I could transfer my inner space in a manner that would allow me to break the limits of time and space. for now I leave this as an assumption as it is here, if someone is interested to go more into depth with that I can write about it more - now I'll focus on a division of different kinds of civilizations.

I consider it a possibility that out there in the vastness of the universe exists what I'd call mechanistic and spiritual civilizations. the mechanistic ones survive and thrive through the manipulation of the external reality. the spiritual ones survive and thrive through the manipulation of the internal reality. in my view, here on our orb these two have co-existed for quite some time. in the past hundred or so years, the mechanistic end seems to have begun gaining ground in a scary way. I think we all can see the possibility in the horizon of us turning into a purely consumer-driven mechanistic entity devoid of true spiritual ground.

an in between thoughts thought - I found a video last night where a very curious canadian elaborates on her thoughts about "conspiracy against enlightenment," with the focus to fluoride. I believe many who wander around these pages know of the effects of fluoride already, but, a "conspiracy against enlightenment"? really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSOBYVvAY9Q

one of the main components of keeping the mechanistic civilizations up and running here in our societies is the fear of death. mechanistic civilizations seem hellbent due to it - look at the "transhumanist" jay kurzweil with all possible ad hominem's taken into considerations and you see what I imply with this.

personally I have no fear of death. I have met within me the eternal part a few times - it's not the one typing away now, this is just poor ego-ramble - yet I know that as I grow I will grow into a realization of it, meaning, identification with it. don't know how long that'll take, it is a process I am letting unravel in its own pace.

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P2P said...

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when one finds wisdom within oneself that's not of "one's making," i.e. nothing learned during this life, the path that becomes tempting to follow is one that assumes some sort of reincarnation. this brings me back to "good" and "bad" aliens. if "good" aliens were the spiritual civilizations and the "bad" aliens were the mechanistic, it would become easy at least for me to see that the spiritual side of things which accepts the eternal wandering of the spirit as an immutable fact doesn't bother with suffering. suffering just is. yet, for a mechanistic civilization, suffering is a tool of control, a mechanism for the survival of the civilization.

I have read somewhat into the lore of "disclosure", and come across testimonies about ufos dismantling nuclear weaponry. it is possibly the only tech of suffering that is truly harmful for ourselves - "the soul killer." a quote:

"William S. Burroughs even touches on this in his novel, "The Western Lands:" "Can any soul survive the searing fireball of an atomic blast? If human and animal souls are seen as electromagnetic force fields, such fields could be totally disrupted by a nuclear explosion. The mummy's nightmare: disintegration of souls, and this is precisely the ultrasecret and supersensitive function of the atom bomb: a Soul Killer, to alleviate an escalating soul glut."

the suffering we endure brings the potential for spiritual evolution, yet simultaneously it serves as a control mechanism for the runaway civilization of psychopaths who happen to run things at the moment. thus, suffering is not "good" or "bad" as such - it all depends how you choose to look at it.

for this reason I find it somehow easy to see that a civilization more spiritually advanced than us wouldn't care if we destroyed each others by the millions. physical, "embodied" mechanistic existence ends, and so what? to those that are left to grieve the lost, the experience of grieving itself can be very positive in the long run, spiritually. I am sorry if I sound cold here but, if reflecting the human existence from the stance of it being but a blink-of-an-eye-in-time illusion, I can only see all of this as a part of a cosmic dance that'll take us forward into the light and dark, weirdly simultaneously.

you wrote,

"So in a sense, there *are* aliens, but you can also call them psychopaths. They're not from another planet. They're right here, and they've been here the whole time."

I've read somewhat into various forms of shamanism, and have encountered in the past months descriptions of so called 'flyers.' I quote:

"To the horrified astonishment of his apprentice, the elder sorcerer explains how the human mind has been infiltrated by an alien intelligence:

"We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don’t do so...

Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores.

They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary and egomaniacal."

According to Don Juan, the sorcerers of ancient Mexico called the predator, the flyer,

“because it leaps through the air... It is a big shadow, impenetrably black, a black shadow that jumps through the air.”

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P2P said...

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the quote at the end of my last commet is from: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienciareal/esp_donjuan13.htm

I find the narration intriguing, not the least because I have personal experience of seeing both flyers and shadow beings. like you say of psychopaths, the shamans say of the flyers that they've been here "all the time." not a single one of us is truly free from our "shadow" - working to understand and accept it, for me, shows to be key in overcoming this mechanistic hell we've slowly descending to.

assuming all aliens as being "bad" just because it's possibly another mechanistic fraction of the vastness of the universe that's working with the elite (if there is such a thing), will trap one into a negative mindset, and mindset of negating. negation slows down spiritual progress.

if one needs evidence of "good" aliens, then one just needs to look into the personal histories of many great writers and artists to see that a good many of them had what I'd call ethereal muses. just because they don't come and give you a magic wand to heal all the ills of the world doesn't mean that their actions aren't of the purest benevolence. inspiring the human mind to new artistic achievements has in it the seed of a better civilization. if we are to be one of those spiritual civilizations, we need to learn that positive change begins internally before it can manifest in the external. magic wands will just be mechanistic and devoid of true meaning.

A. Peasant said...

The point of the post, however, is to prepare people for the possible bluebeam event accompanied by physical manifestations like spaceships etc.

"What is the logic behind this alien agenda? Let’s unpack it. This will be a little exercise in following the logic through to conclusions and seeing if it makes sense. This is not about EVIDENCE, specifically, it’s just about the narrative, and what we’ve been told, and whether that story makes sense, given what we know. "

The spiritual dimension is a whole other matter that i am not interested in arguing with people. I have stated clearly enough on my blog, at various times, my basic christianity just as a reference point where i am coming from.

http://twelfthbough.blogspot.com/2011/06/how-far-is-heaven-part-1.html



The Veritopian said...

Hi AP, it's a good article. Lots of truths.

It's clear though that the 'alien' phenomenon isn't new. It's referenced in the Bible (Gen 6), and many apocryphal writings. Beelzebub means 'flying up and down'. Seraphim & Ophanim etc...

Most cultures have the legend of the 'gods coming down to Earth, and teaching mankind civilisation'.
So that's when the 'alien invasion' happened. Long ago.

I would suggest that: The civilisation / cult-ure they gave us was a trick, and their intent is to feed off and destroy the planet.
Our government & society is modelled on theirs. We've been given an alien culture.

The evil aliens, (aka demons, reptilians, sauroids, Satan etc...) are perhaps not just a predator, but a parasitoid.

So they came here to harvest us. They gave us their hierarchical intellect/ego based mind and culture - in order to enslave us. And it worked.
They planted human-demon hybrids on the planet - the psychopaths - to control us physically.

There's a whole load of context... It's often said that the demons hate mankind - because we're better than them. Our natural way is love and cooperation, whereas theirs is competition. Mankind's natural societies are peaceful and happy. Theirs are warlike.
We are constantly told by the media that mankind 'has a violent nature'. It's not true.

If true, then all worldly suffering and violence is the direct effect of the very real, ongoing, alien occupation of our planet...

Blog: http://veritopian.blogspot.com

A. Peasant said...

Hi Veritopian,
Thank you for the thoughtful comment and link to your blog. I will come over to read more.

I think i am generally in agreement with what you outline here. The main problem is describing te nature of this alien presence. Hyperdimensionality makes the most sense to me, but of course i am sifting through it as i go.

It is true there are many big lies and, as you point out, OLD lies involved, such as humans having warlike tendencies. Not true. Humans are naturally cooperative. Te warlike tendencies are overlaid by this other presence which is not fully human. It is less than human, but its nature or sourse is not known.

At least that is how i frame it for my own mind at this stage...

The Veritopian said...

Hi AP, as I'm attempting to work through in the blog, my hypothesis is that the 'aliens' / 'satan' are the remnant of a technologically advanced highly intelligent predatory dinosaur (dragon) species that pre-dates (and predates, lol) the human race. (Quite a few folks have proposed this I've found).

I think there are levels of materiality above this, and that the demons can appear to have spiritual abilities, while merely being machines.

I'm also coming from a 'gnostic' perspective, in the sense that I am prepared to consider that this Universe wasn't created by the most-high God, but rather by one of It's children - by mistake... It's a little more complicated perhaps, but it starts to make logical sense of our experience.

I'd also say the the 'spirit of Satan' is an entity - an archetype. Where archetypes are arch-angels - they are like the major sub-processes of the Universe machine.

So the arch-angel Lucifer was the archetype of the dragons - and became 'Satan' when it decided to overthrow God. Although, I actually think that could have been a false flag, and Lucifer is a double agent... The Universe is a bit complicated.

I've tried to put this all into a cosmogeny, it's a tentative hypothesis...
http://veritopian.blogspot.com/2014/05/a-gnostic-christian-cosmogeny-origin-of.html
http://veritopian.blogspot.com/2014/05/veritopian-cosmogeny-part-2-from-eden.html

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