6/6/11

one point for being close

What would be good foods to eat to counteract radiation?

The Anti-Radiation Diet

A balanced body can heal itself … but it needs your help. It’s important to pay close attention to the foods and dietary supplements you consume. Here’s why.
Diet and your body’s susceptibility to radiation are closely entwined. Radiation and pollutants destroy vitamins A, C, E, K several N vitamins, essential fatty acids, calcium and neuro-hormones. If your body lacks calcium. Potassium and other nutrients, it will more readily absorb the radioactive elements that are similar in structure to these nutrients.
Your best bet is to eat natural, fresh, organic (as much as possible) unprocessed foods, avoiding, white sugar, red meat, refined wheat, caffeine and homogenized milk. Here is a list of widely recommended foods and food supplements that can help to balance your body chemistry. This list is by no means exhaustive, but it will give you a good starting place.

The list includes, among other things, lots of fruits and vegetables.

  1. "Cruciferous vegetables (cabbage, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, turnips, cabbage, spinach, cauliflower, and greens such as kale)"
  2. "High-fiber foods: whole grains, fruits and vegetables"
  3. "Foods containing a natural Vitamin A"

Very interesting site.

Also see: Simple foods provide protection against radiation exposure.

The Swedish Government monitored the radiation level of foods following the Chernobyl disaster. They found that most animal based foods including meat, dairy, and fish had higher levels of radioactive substances than fruits, vegetables, grains, and potatoes. Eating plant based foods can reduce exposure to radioactive substances by avoiding concentrations of these substances in animal fat and tissues. A plant centered diet in the midst of radiation exposure provides lower levels of radioactive substances as well as fiber, antioxidants, and phytochemicals that have the potential to reduce cancer rates associated with radiation exposure.
Kind of funny that just at a time when it is more important than ever for people to eat right, this deadly strain of e coli has hit the food supply in the fresh food sector, causing people to SHUN fruits and vegetables, out of FEAR.

Damn you fruits and vegetables!



First the Spanish cucumbers. Then the salad veggies. Now the SPROUTS.

German officials are waiting for further test results to confirm any link, but they believe there is a connection with infected patients and bean sprouts grown at one farm in Uelzen, south of Hamburg.

Yes, there they are BELIEVING in the connection before the evidence has actually come in.

Now this is how the e coli infection works:





Note that it says about "Fruits and Vegetables: droppings of sick animals find their way into water bodies that in turn feed the soil."


Bean sprouts are grown from seeds in steam drums at a temperature of 38C.

As the agriculture minister for Lower Saxony, Gert Lindemann, puts it, this is "ideal" breeding ground for all bacteria.However, it is uncertain how the O104 strain of E. coli could get there in the first place. The bacterium normally lives in the gut of animals and E. coli outbreaks can start when faeces are used as fertiliser or when they contaminate water.
However, Klaus Verbeck, managing director of the farm in Germany, is reported as saying: "The salad sprouts are grown only from seeds and water, and they aren't fertilised at all. There aren't any animal fertilisers used in other areas on the farm either."
So it really doesn't seem POSSIBLE for sprouts to be the source, unless the sprout seeds themselves were implanted with the bacteria, suggesting that the chain of evidence go one more step, to whoever supplied the sprout seeds and got the bacteria inside the very seeds.
It is possible that even if tests confirm that the outbreak started at the farm, this might not be the ultimate source.
Dr Stephen Smith, a clinical microbiologist at Trinity College Dublin, said: "E. coli can stick tightly to the surface of seeds needed to make sprouts and they can lay dormant on the seeds for months, during germination the population of bugs can expand 100,000 fold.
"However, and this is probably the key to the German outbreak, the bacteria are inside the sprout tube as well as outside. Thus washing probably had no effect. The bottom line is that it is crucial to source where the seeds came from and recall any stock."
So far we are told the evidence chain stops here:

Reports earlier on Monday traced the virus to bean sprouts grown on a farm in Germany's Lower Saxony region, some 70 km (40 miles) south of Hamburg. Lower Saxony Agriculture Minister Gert Lindemann said on Sunday there was a "very clear trail" leading to a small farm near Uelzen in Lower Saxony that supplied various types of sprouts to restaurants and retailers.
"It is the most convincing... source for the E. coli outbreak." ~ Gert Lindemann


Most convincing? Bizarre. Bizarre because the company growing these sprouts, an organic farm, grows 18 other varieties of sprouts, and Lindemann himself said that the sprouts can't be solely to blame for the outbreak. How would it be possible for there to be MORE THAN ONE source for an outbreak of this rarity?

It’s unclear whether the bacteria came from the water the sprout seeds were grown in or the seedlings themselves, which came both from within Germany and from outside the country, Lindemann said. The farm has been shut down, he said. Sprouts were either delivered directly by the farm or through a distributor to the states of Hamburg, Schleswig- Holstein, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Lower Saxony and Hesse, Lindemann said.
And now we learn, after those organic sprouts have gone under the bus... NEVERMIND! It's not the sprouts. It must be SOME OTHER culprit. But just to be safe, you should probably not eat any fruits and vegetables until they can sort it all out.

The message is: remain afraid. This is not over yet. They still don't know the source of this deadly outbreak. Start and stop the stress. Social engineering. Tavistock. Keep people malleable.


And DON'T LOOK AT THE LABS. Don't look too close. You might find something.
   
Forensic evidence emerges about the e coli superbug:

When scientists at Germany's Robert Koch Institute decoded the genetic makeup of the O104 strain, they found it to be resistant to all the following classes and combinations of antibiotics:

• penicillins
• tetracycline
• nalidixic acid
• trimethoprim-sulfamethoxazol
• cephalosporins
• amoxicillin / clavulanic acid
• piperacillin-sulbactam
• piperacillin-tazobactam

In addition, this O104 strain posses an ability to produce special enzymes that give it what might be called "bacteria superpowers" known technically as ESBLs:


On top of that, this O104 strain possesses two genes -- TEM-1 and CTX-M-15...so deadly that many people infected with such bacteria experience critical organ failure and simply die.
And this cannot really happen by accident in nature.

When considering the genetic evidence that now confronts us, it is difficult to imagine how this could happen "in the wild." While resistance to a single antibiotic is common, the creation of a strain of e.coli that's resistant to eight different classes of antibiotics -- in combination -- simply defies the laws of genetic permutation and combination in the wild. Simply put, this superbug e.coli strain could not have been created in the wild. And that leaves only one explanation for where it really came from: the lab.


...Now, remember: All this is happening on the heels of the EU ban on medicinal herbs and nutritional supplements -- a ban that blatantly outlaws nutritional therapies that help keep people healthy and free from disease. Now that all these herbs and supplements are outlawed, the next step is to make people afraid of fresh food, too. That's because fresh vegetables are medicinal, and as long as the public has the right to buy fresh vegetables, they can always prevent disease.

But if you can make people AFRAID of fresh vegetables -- or even outlaw them altogether -- then you can force the entire population onto a diet of dead foods and processed foods that promote degenerative disease and bolster the profits of the powerful drug companies.

It's all part of the same agenda, you see: Keep people sick, deny them access to healing herbs and supplements, then profit from their suffering at the hands of the global drug cartels.

GMOs play a similar role in all this, of course: They're designed to contaminate the food supply with genetic code that causes widespread infertility among human beings. And those who are somehow able to reproduce after exposure to GMOs still suffer from degenerative disease that enriches the drug companies from "treatment."
Aha, so, terrorism.....? Yes. From labs... ? Which labs... ? Big pharma labs? Military labs? Foreign technology incubator labs?

Would these be considered terrorist labs, if they bio-engineered a strain of e coli resistant to eight different classes of anti-biotics plus throwing in some other deadly genetic mutations?

Killer e coli is 'being spread by terrorists'

THE deadly E.coli outbreak could have been spread by terrorists, say doctors.

They fear rogue groups may have deliberately implanted the killer germ into fresh produce.

Poisoning food supplies would be the perfect way for terror groups to be taken seriously, experts believe.
...Klaus-Dieter Zastrow, chief doctor for hygiene at Germany’s Vivantes Hospital in Berlin, said: “It is quite possible there’s a crazy person out there who thinks: ‘I’ll kill a few people or make 10,000 ill.’
“It is a negligent mistake not to investigate in that direction.”< The Centre For The Protection Of National Infrastructure has warned it would not be beyond al-Qaida to launch a food-based attack.

It all spells disaster for British farmers who are already binning tons of salad crops as nervous shoppers shun fresh veg.


Those terrorists sure do have some top fucking talent on the payroll.

For full updates on all things related to the e coli psyop, check out the great A13's blog: I understand and I wish to continue.

E Coli + Bio Weapon + Germany UPDATED

E Coli + Germany + Bio Weapon

42 comments:

james said...

Top post, AP. It's all too simple once it's laid out like you have done. Thanks!

Sprouts are, by a long way, the most nutritious of fresh foods

james said...

All this irresponsible reporting with no immediate refutation (and certainly not on the front page) from government labs or recognised 'authorities' means that the people behind these governments and behind the media are also behind this outbreak of e coli.

It is interesting to note that when there actually is something for the public to be afraid of, the government and the media are at pains to play down the danger, such as with Fukushima and Chernobyl before that. But when there is nothing or little to it, it's front page fearmongering.

The media is like a reverse weather vane; always pointing the opposite way to the truth. If it is a big noise, it's bullshit.

Jody Paulson said...

I've heard that rosemary helps with radiation, too.

A. Peasant said...

yes, yes. yes to rosemary, and yes to the opposite world of what to fear.

in my own travels about how to protect from this radiation, there are a lot of small things people can do, small changes. buy as much organic produce, eat as much fresh fruits and vegetables as possible, take potassium iodine, and lately i also came across this fulvic acid, which is new to me but looks interesting.

also the site linked up top,

http://www.safespaceprotection.com/

has a lot of info to look over too.

it is important that people not feel helpless. we are not helpless, in point of fact.

A13 said...

Hi Pez, Thanks again for a wonderfully informative post :)
and the linky..
What I find incredibly SUSS is the fact the this company LIFE technologies..has put out a "testing" kit for people that are suspected of being "infected" by this bacterium.

http://translate.google.com/translate?ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www.lifetechnologies.com/home.html

VERY SUSS indeed...
If this is a petrfectly NEW strain/serotype..how can this "company" already have sequenced it and developed a testing kit in such time??

Cheers to your research:)
big cheers to you ;)
A13

A13 said...

More about the TEST:

http://www.lifetechnologies.com/news-gallery/press-releases/2011/life-technologies-develops-fast-and-accurate-test-to-detect-euro.html

"A qPCR-based assay test is the most accurate method to detect harmful foodborne pathogens because a positive result indicates the presence of that particular strain's DNA in the food sample that is being tested," said Nir Nimrodi, Head of Food Safety at Life Technologies. "It is also the fastest. While traditional laboratory testing methods can take up to 10 days for results, this test can determine the presence or absence of the European pathogen in 10 to 24 hours, depending on the sample type and size."

Life Technologies began designing the specially tailored test last week after company researchers, using samples supplied by scientists at University Hospital Munster, completed the DNA sequencing and analysis work on the deadly E. coli strain using the Ion Personal Genome Machine (PGM™)
( end)

I still think it's suss...
A13

kenny said...

A sad day today. The spinach crop is done and the lettuce is not that far behind. After over 7 weeks of a daily salad, the end is nigh.

Too much rain in the early spring and the later crops were weeks behind in getting planted. Now we've got 10 straight days of over 90 degrees and no rain with no end in sight.

Knowing we needed the food, my son-in-law and I planted a second garden of around 15,000 sq. ft. in a rich bottom but with no access to water besides nature. Who knows if we'll get much and everyone around here is in the same boat. The prospects for the local farmers market are dwindling.


Good organic food is a weapon against what can kill us and now the ptb are using food as a weapon against us.

We have incorporated chia seeds in our diet here lately. They may be a worthwhile addition for others to consider.

dublinmick said...

We have come a long way now that half the world is discussing how not glow and die from the food they eat. As soon as this happened I started going to the local asian store and buying big bags of seaweed. Not enough time to contaminate them.

After awhile they realized what I was doing and giving me dirty looks, so I stopped. Probably a lot of seaweed has had some radiation at this point. Even atlantic seaweed you have to watch that corexit you know.

Sprouts are the little seed diddies you buy at the (health food store!) We don't want to encourage that do we?

The Max Planck Institute is very prestigious, they say the government line is a fairy tale that Germany has had it's first bio attack and they say sue them if they want but that is their position. That is where Einstein plagarized all of his theories, from Max!

It looks pretty well planned, Spaniards in the streets, boom Spanish cucumbers bad, Germany will not bomb Libya, boom helicopters have problems with Merkie riding in it, and Germany has an E-coli problem. Britain blocks German food.

Yeah a testing kit on hand pretty much tells you what you need to know. Somebody was ready to make some money. I wonder if a miracle cure vaccine will pop up that stops e-coli in it's tracks? Of course it could be mandatory also.

It could be that GMO food somehow act as an enhancer with some of these bacteria also, but I am not a scientists. Some reports indicate they do, as gene transfer involves female plants and the outbreak is worse on women. Anyway here is what the planck institute says.

http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2011/05/28/first-act-of-bioterrorism-in-germany-ehec-identified-as-biological-terrorist-attack-husec-41-confirms-bioterrorism-thesis/

By the way the EU has decided to go ahead with airport scanners in Europe. This could get interesting, especially in Greece. LOL

dublinmick said...

The health ranger is on top of it. It is impossible. You have to take the bacteria and expose it to each antibiotic, take surviving cells and expose to the next and so on to have one resistant to all the different types. This can be done only in a lab.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=27816

Sea Veg said...

Great stuff!!! i like it.

veritas6464 said...

Hey AP,...I guess we are fighting on all fronts now. Here in rothschalia, a popular vitamin and supplements company that provided excellent products including a wide range of natural herbal organics was shut down and I mean SHUT DOWN in a very dramatic (made for talmudvision) "Raid" encompassing all their outlets and warehouses by Australia's Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) because of accusations of "contamination, dosage irregularities and sub-standard processing" - no evidence was ever made public. No mention has been made since and no-one in the Media questioned the attack.

Here's a link you might get something out of, very good site:

http://www.holistichealthtopics.com/HMG/codex2.html


Excellent Post,

veritas

A. Peasant said...

A13, that certainly is suspect.

"It took both teams just three days to complete the work on the benchtop DNA sequencer."

http://translate.google.com/translate?ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www.lifetechnologies.com/home.html

once again -- could they plug the hole in the gulf of mexico? could they do anything about the deadly radiation spewing from fukushima? no, no. but then at other times, Extreme Efficiency.

A. Peasant said...

hey Kenny, sorry to hear about the garden losses. even still, all the good salads you've been able to eat for seven weeks will have helped. hopefully you can still get some organic food at the grocery store. ?

A. Peasant said...

dubs -- thanks for the plank link. i will look at it more closely. the ranger link is in my post! :D

A. Peasant said...

hola sea veg. looks like an interesting product you have there.

A. Peasant said...

hi V! thanks for the link, looks excellent. something similar happened here in the past year or so where they went after some supplement, i can't remember which one, but they shut it down based on some allegations that a handful of people had died misusing the supplement. meanwhile of course big pharma drugs cause tens of thousands of deaths from standard use but that is not mentioned.

Anonymous said...

potassium iodide pills
kelp tablets
sea salt
iodized table salt
red wine

*with love a nony mouse*

A13 said...

Hi Pez, here is something Interesting.

They are now using UNTESTED drugs on the Patients of the Ecoli outbreak..Suss..A LIVE testing enviroment?? FREE "medicine"?

"US drug manufacturer Alexion is sending free medicine to Germany to help doctors battling the most severe cases in the current E. coli outbreak. But the extent to which Eculizumab can help remains unclear"

From HERE:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,766918,00.html

Again, who benefits?
Cheers A13

Jen Lake said...

The Russians gave their bioweapons scientists daily raw milk --people who spent their days around radiation and deadly microbes.

A13 said...

Hi A.P.
Some interesting info,
The Drug is called SOLIRIS and is the MOST EXPENSIVE drug in the world..From WIKIpedia..
According to Forbes magazine, Soliris, at $409,500 a year, is the world's single most expensive drug.[2]

IT also is VERY dangerous and has potentially deady side effects.

"
IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION
WARNING: SERIOUS MENINGOCOCCAL INFECTIONS
Soliris increases the risk of meningococcal infections. Meningococcal infection may become rapidly life-threatening or fatal if not recognized and treated early
Vaccinate patients with a meningococcal vaccine at least 2 weeks prior to receiving the first dose of Soliris; revaccinate according to current medical guidelines for vaccine use
Monitor patients for early signs of meningococcal infections, evaluate immediately if infection is suspected, and treat with antibiotics if necessary"

see more from here:
http://www.alxn.com/SolirisAndPNH/ImportantSafetyInfo.aspx

Cheers A13

A. Peasant said...

a nony mouse, now hot damn that's a diet i could perhaps manage. salt and wine, not really a problem. maybe we could make some raw milk ice cream too, to Jen's point. will need some coffee. also fond of wasabi...

A. Peasant said...

A13, i think you got a live one there. let me get this straight about this drug:

it has severe side effects that require a meningococcal vaccine 2 weeks prior to taking it. not sure how such a drug is useful then in an acute illness. what if the patients are so sick they can't wait two weeks?

this is the only drug the company markets. that is what justifies the extremely high price.

weirdly enough, product sales grew 40% last year even though the drug is only approved for a rare blood disease.

"Bock justified the medicine's high price with the company's extremely high-risk strategy of only developing drugs for rare and hopeless diseases."

WHICH MIRACULOUSLY does not appear to be so extremely high risk after all ???

PLUS they are even GIVING the drug away. not clear how they can afford to do that -- how this business model actually works. something appears to be missing. it is not a business model that makes any sense to me, yet somehow it all works out?

and they base the drug's "success" on ONE patient, who is not a patient involved in this outbreak.

that is really one hell of a narrative they have going on there with this drug.

A13 said...

Hi A.P..
It is a very suss narrative and business model...a FRONT?
check here from Wikipedia..

On April 4, 2011 Alexion became a member of the Nasdaq-100, a group composed of the 100 largest non-financial stocks traded on the Nasdaq; with a market value of USD 8.5 billion it replaced Genzyme Corporation.[7]

and also this is mentioned..

"Alexion CEO at the time (Leonard Bell) cited Proliferon's ability to produce an 'unlimited amount of antibodies' as the reason for the acquisition (also referred to as a merger)."

AN UNLIMITED amount of antibodies?
What are they doing? Cloning?
perplexing.
A13

A. Peasant said...

no question A13, something is missing from the story.

several somethings.

A13 said...

It is cloning..Eculizumab is one of these..
wikipedia again..

Monoclonal antibodies (mAb or moAb) are monospecific antibodies that are the same because they are made by identical immune cells that are all clones of a unique parent cell.

and...

'Fully' human monoclonal antibodies.
Ever since the discovery that monoclonal antibodies could be generated in-vitro, scientists have targeted the creation of 'fully' human antibodies to avoid some of the side effects of humanised and chimeric antibodies"

if they can do this..
well couldn't something like this be used to CREATE a biovirus in the same process??
Remember the ecoli bacteria is a Chimera..and well, you know.

sorry about all the coments but i just have to bounce this off..It doesn't sit right.
cheers A13

A. Peasant said...

no worries. i think you are onto something. i really suck at science however, so it's hard for me to say for sure.

here's a link dated 8/5/10:

http://farmwars.info/?p=3570

"It is possible that a mutated form of e-coli resulting from the cloning process used in creating GMOs could get into the gut of a person or animal that eats a transgenic plant.

Could this be why DuPont, the company that produces Pioneer Hi-Bred GMO animal feed, and proud proponent of GMO technology, has jumped into partnership with the USDA in identifying hard-to-identify strains of e-coli?

A new joint project between DuPont Qualicon and the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) aims to develop testing to detect hard-to-identify strains of E.coli that are not regulated and have been causing increasing instances of food contamination.

(http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/somebody-save-us-the-usda-is-partnering-with-dupont/#more-10972)

With this convenient partnership, even if harmful strains of e-coli relating to GMOs are discovered, it is likely that the public will never hear it from the USDA or DuPont."


and a recent comment there:

"Great article…. I remember a huge debate back in the early 70′s about using e-coli to facilitate modifying genes… the thought was back then that it might be possible to get toxic e-coli into the food chain with disasterous results, (no human immunity)…. the argument back then was that no responsible scientist would take that chance. How far we’ve come. Once these bugs proliferate, we could see MASSIVE die offs of human populations, like the plagues in europe, of the decimation of the native americans by diseases to which they had no natural resistance. This goes even beyond gmo labeling debates, into the realm of science fiction. Once the toxic e-coli gets loose, there’s just no telling what might happen, as it won’t care whether it’s carrier is organic or not. So, even if all gmo’s were labeled, that’s no longer the only issue we’re going to face."


also, what do you think of this:

http://www.neue-medizin.com/lanka2.htm

also here: comments:

http://aunk.newsvine.com/_news/2010/07/15/4683380-dr-stefan-lanka-exposes-the-viral-fraud


is Jen Lake here? if so Jen what do you think??

Jen Lake said...

I wrote out a long post for this thread but lost it on the uptake --going to comment on E.coli in transgenic and mutation research as a favorite organism. The recombinant work was DONE between 1968 and 1971-- posted at www.polioforever.wordpress.com/sv40-monkey-virus/ pasting SV40 into E.coli, but as highly mutable bacteria, mutant E.coli is tested with antibiotics to measure its transformation success. Antibiotic resistance is a byproduct of transgenic research, and non-rDNA E.coli work is considered a low biohazard so its entry in the environment is inevitable besides being a terror weapon, perfect for commercial sabotage.
Good diet ideas against gut pathogens is to outcompete them, called 'competitive exclusion'practices in agriculture. This is crucial for raising radiation resistance too--the intestines are extremely vulnerable. What I'm learning in the course of radiation-illness suggests high-fiber foods are a longterm hazard. The overwhelming damage from radiation destroys structural proteins which exhausts the immune system --AIDS-like-- and Dr. Stephan Lanka is brilliant and courageous!

Penny said...

Hey AP, good post and A13 has been kickin ass too!

Saw something over at natural news about magnesium for radiation.

Of course kelp, helps with the thyroid.

All the seasalts which are full of all manner of minerals, but, if you want to get any I suggest you get it now and stock up, it will soon be contaminated thanks to Fukushima

A. Peasant said...

hi Jen, so sorry you lost the comment. damn booger does things like that all too often.

i'm reading your polio link now.

hola Pen, good suggestion re: the sea salts. and i just received my bottle of fulvic acid but now i need to get some distilled water because of course they floridate all the water here. so helpful.

james said...

Jen (and others)
Booger seems to have a time limit for posting comments. SO it is long, it is best to compose it in a word doc and then go online and copy and paste it.

Even on shorter comments now i right click and copy them before hitting 'preview' or 'publish'.

If it drops out, i then leave the site (blog) and then open it again and try and post it again.

Anonymous said...

Swiss chard, boiled; Spinach, boiled; and Kelp (sea vegetable) are great sources of magnesium.

Jen Lake said...

James, thanks for the posting tip-- good idea.
A13, you've found a gem. The biotech with the test basically knew what they were looking for-- a single mutation point-- even if they were "innocent". Consider this about E.coli: published 2001, "Expanding the Genetic Code of Escherichia coli" http://www.sciencemag.org/content/292/5516/498.abstract; here's a quote about artificial amino acids in E.coli: "Augmenting proteins with unnatural amino acids could make existing proteins more potent in their actions, or even endow them with entirely new properties that might be useful for industry or medicine. Dr. Schultz's [E.coli], for example, look and act entirely like normal creatures until they are placed in contact with a certain sort of poison [an antibiotic]. Then, because they are producing an an unnatural protein, they survive while all the others die." http://www.economist.com/node/987697?story-id=987697 .
I wonder if the mutant has an unnatural amino acid or a transgene-- that would make it a very 'special' sort of lab escapee. The radioactive uptick we all have to contend with makes this a great time for mutant microbes, ideal for seeding "new codes".

A13 said...

Hi Pez, and Hi Jen, Thanks for that, I'm off to read the links..It just doesn't look right from bio point of view, even to someone like me with minimal sci knowledge ( did a bit of pharmacy at uni back in the 80's)
i wondering though if the the bascterium with the new properties..that acted like normal until they came into contact with something that "changed them"..ie create unnatural proiten??could have something to do with female hormones?? as women were vastly over represented in the uptake and death/rate.
it must have something to do with that? like oestrogen? or similar?
just another angle to add..
Off i go to read these links :)
Thanks very much.
Cheers A13

A. Peasant said...

very thought provoking, wondering what could be the change agent.

hormones, something in the air or food supply....?


"for example, look and act entirely like normal creatures until they are placed in contact with a certain sort of poison [an antibiotic]. Then, because they are producing an an unnatural protein, they survive while all the others die.

is it possible that the antibiotics used to treat the infection made the people sicker? thus the more aggressively a person was treated perhaps the worse they became, since multiple antibiotics could possibly even trigger multiple unnatural proteins in such a bio-engineered illness, adding to the virulence narrative? i don't suppose that level of detail is accessible in the public domain. but once these people land in hospital no doubt the first thing that happens is they start getting pumped with medicine.

nobody said...

Very good. I'll just add to Veritas' bit about the Pan Pharmaceuticals shutdown - the owner of Pan was Gamal 'Jim' Selim who was - horror! - an Arab born in Egypt. Well that's him fucked. Selim declared that there was a 'vendetta' against him, sued the federal government for $200M, and won. Following that, Pan's shareholders, partners, suppliers, and customers also sued the government and they too won.

I reckon if you were able to unsnarl the rat's nest underlying the campaign against him (they resorted to the biggest product recall in the history of the world) you'd find some 'interesting' people there. But it was all good! They destroyed the man they were after and when the falsity of it all was revealed the Australian government (ie. the Australian taxpayers) paid for it all. Another perfect two-fer - three cheers!

That aside, everything that is recommended here makes sense with or without radiation. Sure the radiation is another reason to pile in but since we've no way of knowing if a thing is radioactive or not it's all much of a muchness.

Speaking of which, I asked my Japanese friends what their families and friends in Japan (North in Morioka and South in Tokyo) are doing about the radiation and they say there's nothing they can do. How can you tell what's good and bad? You have to buy food, so they buy food. But imagine eating with a permanant mindset of vague dread, and that mostly for your children. God pity those poor sons of bitches.

veritas6464 said...

Hey AP,...Nobs, excellent follow up; I was not aware of the Compo' paid to Selim, or the others, I didn't notice anything because I don't dig into the MSM I just see stuff when I do my drive-by of the Gnus programs in the Ayem and the Pyem. So, not an authority on anything inherent to it.

Nastrovya

veritas

A. Peasant said...

greetings men from Oz....

well yes that seems to have been a win win for the anti-Selimites. it's always great when the taxpayers pony up the money owed.

V: "I didn't notice anything because I don't dig into the MSM I just see stuff when I do my drive-by of the Gnus programs in the Ayem and the Pyem. So, not an authority on anything inherent to it."

-- brilliantly stated.

it is very sad about the Japanese and totally understandable. it is living under a cloud of doom, and what can they do? there's no recourse. there's no way to know what will happen in terms of illness, and when it does, how to ever get anyone to acknowledge their responsibility for it. it's actually the same situation everywhere in terms of poison in the environment only much more overtly stated in Japan's case.

aferrismoon said...

Sprouts" I was advised by someone a few years ago that it might be a good idea to not eat sprouts from restaurants and definitely don't buy them from a shop [ esp, Supermarkets]. Growing them at home seems to give back a sense of autonomy for those without gardens , and of course a hell of a lot cheaper.

The bio-health food industry , generally affordable to those above a certain income bracket, also plays its part in confusing people about food while being thought of as food experts [ almost by default].

To me there is a certain nastiness about 'bio' food and it comparative inaccessibility from the lower income population.

From spanish cucumbers, through bio-sprouts to bioterrorists.

My money's on some kind of binary weapon - u ingest the food with one half and then its up to u if u do the 2nd trigger-part which could be anything from using a specific brand of cotton buds, impregnated toilet paper or listening to Miley Cyrus album.

Basic stopry though is that HEALTH IS UNHEALTHY , sprrk skixx crackle kapoof, [ the sound of cognitive functions breaking down].

We shall be put upon to drink 'Cat's blood' from the Lady Gaga range of food products.

Bon Appetit

A. Peasant said...

ferris:

"My money's on some kind of binary weapon - u ingest the food with one half and then its up to u if u do the 2nd trigger-part which could be anything from using a specific brand of cotton buds, impregnated toilet paper or listening to Miley Cyrus album."

this seems to be what they are saying this morning. even though the sprouts tested negative, people who ATE the sprouts became ill. how could that be?

also i totally agree that there's something wrong with the whole idea that healthy food is only affordable to certain classes.

A13 said...

Hi Guys,
maybe, knowing that "poor" people will eat cetain things, like sprouts, and also veges..there is something within our systems that makes the spread of bacterium irresistable?..a layer in our systems ready to pick up this shit..ie bacteria/other virus/disease that we have NO knowledge about..like ferris said..from ANY innocuos thing..
BUT..the female uptake ratio's disturb me into thinking that there must be , some thing different to attract or cause the HUS syptoms to appear...ie.hormonal hypothesys..
WTFKS.....
A13

A. Peasant said...

i'm trying to kick the ball a little bit further down the field with a post... per this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/11/world/europe/11ecoli.html

"No harmful bacteria had been found in any samples, he said. But from the pattern of the outbreak, “it was possible to narrow down epidemiologically the cause of the outbreak of the illness to the consumption of sprouts.” "

either that is total bullshit, or people who consumed the sprouts, which were not contaminated, somehow ate the magic ingredient to trigger the protein.

james said...

The logic for the sprouts being the triggering agent in a 'binary process' doesn't work.

That's the sort of thing that can only be arrived at working backwards after establishing the other half of the 'binary' cause.

This is because until you know what the 'other half' needs you have no idea what it is that's in the sprouts that triggers the reaction. Therefore how could you know that there is ANYTHING in the sprouts that is causing the reaction?

How would anyone know it is not from picking your nose which every one of the victims admitted to doing in the 24 hrs before falling ill?

How do you know it isn't, indeed, listening to Lady Gaga that's doing it? (much more likely!)

I think the people who are making these statements are laughing their tits off at this (us).

wv "joligin" You can't make this stuff up!

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