7/29/12

kingpin taken out - updated

UPDATES at the bottom.

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Voltaire Network reports that newly appointed head of Saudi intelligence Bandar Bush has been eliminated by Syria in retaliation for the July 18 attack that took out several Syrian generals. http://www.voltairenet.org/Syria-eliminates-Bandar-bin-Sultan "Though not yet announced by the Saudi authorities, the death of Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al Saud has been confirmed to Voltaire Network unofficially.".... "His death constitutes a serious blow to the whole system of Western covert action in the Muslim world. It took Syria only eight days to mount this spectacular reprisal operation." A HUGE blow delivered by Syria. Wow. Stunning news. We wonder how Team NATO will spin it.

UPDATE: For some context...

This reportedly occurred July 26. Still no announcement. Must be a HUGE embarrassment and disappointment, given the gloating over his appointment.

7/12/12: Prince Bandar bin Sultan (Bandar Bush) named new Saudi intelligence chief

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/west-asia-africa/39327-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bandar-bush-named-new-saudi-intelligence-chief.html



This could be a sign of things to come in Syria given the fact that he was instrumental in running the anti-Soviet Afghan war in the 80s. He is also very aggressive and a hawk in the Saudi establishment but also very close the US establishment.
The previous person Muqrin had a softer approach on most issues.

...For Saudis and Westerners who remember Prince Bandar as a driving force rallying international support and procuring weapons for Muslim fighters seeking to push Soviet forces from Afghanistan in the 1980s, the appointment was a sign that the Saudis might play a more influential role as uprisings that may remake the Arab world, especially in Syria.
"In these very hectic moments for Saudi foreign policy…we need Bandar bin Sultan," said Abdullah al-Shammri, a political analyst. "He's a volcano, and we need a volcano at this moment."
Mr. al-Shammri cited what he called Prince Bandar's "special relationship" with American officials. He also mentioned parallels between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia working together in the 1980s against the Soviets in Afghanistan, and current circumstances in Syria, where the U.S., Saudi Arabia and others are trying to overcome Russian objections to tougher action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime.

UPDATED 7/31/12: Still waiting for announcements.... clock is ticking....


Appointment announced 7/19/20:

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/politics/2012/07/bandar-bin-sultanhead-of-saudi-i.html

"In an unexpected royal move, an order was issued by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia yesterday [July 19] removing Prince Muqrin Bin-Abd-al-Aziz from his post as head of the General Intelligence Directorate (GID) and appointing Prince Bandar Bin-Sultan as his successor."

This link found at Penny's is important for establishing the timeline:

http://www.islamtimes.org/vdcgyq9q7ak97z4.5jra.html

Sunday 22 July 2012 12:52


"Blast hits Saudi intelligence building, killing deputy spy chief
Islam Times - A blast has hit the builing of Saudi intelligence service in Riyadh, killing deputy of the newly-appointed intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan, according to reports.
The explosion took place on Sunday when Bin Sultan’s deputy was entering the building, Yemen's al-Fajr Press quoted eyewitnesses as saying.


Saudi media have so far refrained from showing any reaction to the blast."

So we have a hit on the Syrians on 7/18, killing multiple generals, the next day Bandar's surprise appointment, and three days later a successful hit on him in front of the Saudi intelligence building. Bandar dies a few days later, 7/26. STILL NO OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT, 7/31.

Let's be clear. On 7/20/12, The Jewish Week has an article titled: Bandar Bush Rides Again.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/blogs/political-insider/bandar-bush-rides-again

"His Washington connections – including with Jewish members of Congress --  and experience suggest his surprise appointment was intended to strengthen US-Saudi relations following disagreements over responses to last year's Arab uprisings.
A former jet fighter pilot with a preference for Cuban cigars, the Dallas Cowboys and the good life, Bandar, 63, is considered the regime's leading hawk and a strong supporter of the Syrian rebels trying to overthrow Bashar Assad. He is said to favor arming the rebels, which Saudi Arabia and Qatar are doing already.
David Ottaway, his biographer and a senior scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington, said Bandar is "just the right person for the right time in Saudi.""

Does The Jewish Week sound upset that Bandar is Riding Again? No. This is The Jewish Week quietly rubbing its hands together in anticipation of the rebels tearing Syria apart.


Thoughts, instincts on this: Certainly Bandar would have many enemies, many people who would like to see him dead. However, which ones would be able to deliver? Who has that kind of intelligence capability?

No announcement in the controlled media. Who controls the media? This indicates that they are still figuring out how to spin this. Because if it was pre-planned and delivered by the people who control the media, they would have had their story ready to go from Day One. Instead no story, Day Nine....? Houston we have a problem. How are they going to get in front of this narrative now, all these days later? They're not. It's all over the internets already. They have a big problem. Not only did they get a nasty surprise that they did not anticipate, from a corner they did not expect, but they don't know how to spin the news of it. That is our take on it. Of course, we could be wrong.

Also interesting that some people, in the intelligence world, don't trust Israel. And maybe they would like to see Israel's plans for world domination thwarted?
CIA calls Israel main US regional spy threat, 7/30/12
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2012/07/30/18718602.php

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UPDATED 8/1/12

Aangirfan has several posts on this situation, Mossad and Bandar being the latest. The debkafile article posits: (http://www.debka.com/article/22225/Saudi-silence-on-intelligence-chief-Bandar%E2%80%99s-fate-denotes-panic)

1) Saudis are panicked that they have been infiltrated, and that's why they haven't made an announcement yet. They are trying to find the hole and the mole. (We agree.)
2) Unnamed sources to Df doubt that Syrian intelligence has the capability to infiltrate Saudi Arabia and conduct this hit. (We don't know about that. We suppose at the very least Syrian intelligence has allies such as Russia that would have the capability. Also Iran. Bandar was instrumental in the first Afghan war back in the 80s that Russia got sucked into for many years. He would certainly have made many enemies over the years, from many places.)
3) Df concludes it must be Iran. (Imagine our shock.)
4) Df says the hit happened Monday, 7/23. (We read about it Sunday, 7/22, see above.)
5) Df claims to be the "first world publication" to report the attack. (O RLY?)
6) Df posits that Iran hired al qaeda, as it has done before. (AQ, created and run by the CIA and Mossad? So Iran and CIA are on the same team? And CIA and Mossad are on the same team, except for the part where the CIA doesn't trust Israel because of all the spying -- see link above...? So actually, it's impossible to know. There could be double and triple crosses going on here, especially since you never know who might be a crypto-Jew.)

Mostaque Ali: More Crypto-Jews in the Muslim World? 4/23/08

Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iran...?

Also see some old posts here:
one big happy family i guess
let's pretend
plan c: back door through Saudi Arabia?
have another cup of joe with me

All we know is that Saudi Arabia is saying nothing, and the controlled media (and you know who controls it) is saying nothing. Why is that? Because.... they respect Saudi Arabia and the news is unconfirmed? Well, tell us since when have journalists been so careful? Since when has respect and confirmation been important? All who pay attention know that they repeat lie after lie, they photo shop, they use old photos and say they are new, they build sets and broadcast fake battles, they do ALL MANNER of deception; but they are not talking about this. Interesting.

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UPDATE 8/1/12: Anonymous in Aan's comment section has another theory, very well-reasoned:

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yes, it would appear Saudi Arabia intelligence has been infiltrated...

Or, as a result of Bandar attempting a coup to put his dying father on the throne, likely, so Bandar, himself, could assume the throne upon his father's death (which he did shortly die), others in the Saudi ruling clique took great offense.

Bandar dropped from public sight and was either banished from Saudi Arabia or was internally confined.

Imagine how others in the Saudi leadership viewed the attempted coup and then their horror when Bandar was not just brought back to public prominence, but made intelligence chief?

Bandar was aggressive in being "Washington's boy" and inserting itself in "revolution", at Washington's urging. Not all of Saudi Arabia's ruling clique is one board for this position (encouraging popular protest must make a number of Saudi's ruling clique nervous considering their own citizens' protests and risk for overthrowing the monarchy).

Look to score settling and removing a potential rival who had already attempted a coup and taken Saudi Arabia from being somewhat independent (or at least allowed factions in the ruling clique to think they had freedom of action) to a complete vassal of the United States.

What better cover to assassinate Bandar and have it blamed on Syria or Iran.

Some claim with some evidence that the Saudi monarchy is cryto-jewish, that would explain cooperation with the Israeli government, but might other Saudis within the ruling clique be nervous having Israeli government assets working on Saudi soil?

Apparently, Bandar had a working relationship with Israel's government and intelligence services, again, might that upset certain factions in Saudi Arabia's ruling clique?

Might some in the Saudi ruling clique think Bandar had made Saudi Arabia a "lap dog" for Israel's foreign policy to destabilize the Middle East and deeply resented that "lap dog" status?

Silence from the Saudi government can mean many things, but it could mean that there is fear of dramatic internal divisions within the Saudi ruling clique coming out into the Saudi public's consciousness, which could open a pandora's box threatening the whole regime.

In conclusion: Who had the best access to Bandar and would know his schedule?

Answer: Others within the Saudi ruling clique.
Additional reading, links found via There Are No Sunglasses:

Syrian Intelligence War: A Tale of Two Security Headquarters
"There is much more to the conflict in Syria than meets the eye. Syria is currently the scene of a cold war between the US, NATO, Israel, and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) on one side and Russia, China, Iran, and the Resistance Bloc on the other hand. Amidst the fighting between the Syrian government and anti-government forces, an intense intelligence war has also been taking place."


HERE is the Yinon Plan. Note that it has been around for about 30 years.




http://twelfthbough.blogspot.com/2011/10/mlks-nightmare.html


This is an important document. You should read it.

The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state. Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel's satellites and, ironically, its source of moral legitimation....What they want and what they are planning for is not an Arab world, but a world of Arab fragments that is ready to succumb to Israeli hegemony.
You can also read more about the Yinon Plan and fission field warfare in this post written by James at Winter Patriot Community.


As described in the Yinon Plan, the goal is to balkanize Syria and the Middle East, including Turkey, which is stupidly laying its neck on the block to be balkanized, too.  Putting as many countries into perpetual war -- internal war, external war, any kind will do -- as possible, FREEING UP Israel to do whatever the hell it wants.


Peter Chamberlin: [Hatay is the coastal region where the body of Russian General Yuri Yevgenyevich Ivanov was recovered, after drowning in Syria, on August 6, 2010, approximately 40 miles south of there (SEE:  The Obscenity of Humanitarian Warfare).  This area today is "ground zero" in the invasion of Syria by the mercenaries of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United States.  General Ivanov was murdered to prevent him reporting on what he saw there.   The build-up to invasion was taking place there, even in 2010, so was the great spy war.]

Coincidentally, on 7/19/12, Omar Suleiman, former spy chief of Egypt under Mubarak, reportedly in good health, died suddenly at a US hospital while undergoing tests. "His loyalty in guarding the secrets of the previous authoritarian regime has earned him the title of the “black box.”" ~ source

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Fingers crossed.

Thanks AP.

A. Peasant said...

Yes. If true, this is a psychological bitchslap and they are sputtering in disbelief.

Anonymous said...

E-mail Adel...

http://www.saudiembassy.net/embassy/adelbio.aspx/

maybe he could give some HEADS UP

for the near term...

A. Peasant said...

He actually doesn't look so creepy but of course the halls of power are full of assorted creatures and they are all prisoners and employees of hell.

Anonymous said...

All very mysterious.

Who is next?

- Aangirfan

(The advert here is of a three breasted woman.)

A. Peasant said...

What advert?? I don't have any on the blog. Do you get one on posting a comment?

I was very surprised with this successful hit on bandar bush. I don't know who might be next but I would expect things to escalate along those lines of spook wars.

questioning said...

hmm, my comment was lost...

will summarize. This crypto-chosenite dead? amazing, he was a major playa. expect the "Muslim" Bobbleheads to have many of theirs whacked. the crypto-rats in the Iranian gov sent to the wood chipper.
Why may all this be going on? This article is interesting

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/big-secret-dont-look-man-behind-curtain

A. Peasant said...

no idea where your first comment is q, no sign of it in spam or moderation. though i had a couple of comments in moderation and God knows how long they were in there as i am dealing with half broken technology and it sucks. but i digress...

i just did a quick look at the article and i have to tell you, webre is mentioned there in glowing terms and i think he is uber-cointelpro. so i'll give that a closer look in the morning with fresh eyes.

Mark said...

You were way out in front on this one, A Pea; a few networks are starting to tentatively pick it up now, more than a day after you reported it and a whole work week after it was supposed to have happened. "Press News" often isn't the greatest source, but I would believe Thierry Meysan and Voltaire because he/they usually make sure they know what they're talking about before they print it.

Hard to believe, and you can multiply our disbelief tenfold for the Saudis - their prolonged silence suggests they don't know how to play it. I even saw a comment elsewhere which suggested it was a false-flag op and that Syria was carrying the blame for it but the Israelis were likely to blame. That shows a profound misunderstanding of geopolitics, since it is the House of Saud and the Muslim Brotherhood that are aiming to overthrow secular leaders throughout the Middle East and Africa in favour of those who will let Israel be.

Well. Both NATO and the Saudis seem to be gobsmacked, and I can't wait to see how they spin it. Meanwhile, I owe you dinner the next (first) time I see you for your intrepid journalism.

A. Peasant said...

Hi Mark,
Yes I agree Voltaire is such an excellent source and when I happened to be looking around the and saw it, I really did a double take. Later I saw that Penny and her crew were already twigged onto the initial reports that subsequently went dark, but I had missed that. See bottom of post and comments:

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2012/07/syria-saudi-arabia-and-what-hell-is.html

All props to Penny for being on top of the Syria mess from day one.

As for who done it, the list could be long. And the list of cui bono is long too, but there is no question that Assad is number one on that list. Combined with the silence, it looks very much like Syria scored a huge torpedo hit to the enemy's battleship engine room, and they are now scrambling. Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of mass murderers. It's really a spectacular development.

Anonymous said...

There is now an advert for Tesco on this comment form.

- Aangirfan

A. Peasant said...

wow, thank you for letting me know. i don't see anything, even when i sign on anonymously. and i don't see any settings to fix as i never set up adsense or anything like that. i'm stumped! booger is sticking ads on my blog without my consent and who is getting paid for them i'd love to know, as well?

questioning said...

I did get an ad from booger when my first comment was lost. basically it was like a signup ad. never saw that in the comments section before. make of that what you will.

and yes....plz,plz,plz let these be good guys who DONT want to rule over everybody who did this....

Anonymous said...

It's just like the old days - Brute Bernard and Skull Murphy back in action, yeeha!

You get it I'm sure.

A. Peasant said...

superfly snuka applies the figure four....

yes it is ALL REAL!

Penny said...

Thanks so much AP for the credit

Prior to this whole was Bandar assassinated was he not
Haaretz had an interesting article up, that then went away
That then reappeared but only by subscription

I did manage to get the cached copy
If you haven't seen it, you can find it in that same post with the news of the explosion

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2012/07/syria-saudi-arabia-and-what-hell-is.html

I'm still not sure if he is dead or what?
Though it is starting to look more as if he is.

But, who exactly got him?

When one takes into consideration that the hit on Assad at the palace in Damscus happened just prior to the killing of Bandar...

It could look as if it is retaliation by Syria
for my mind that is to obvious

We do seem to be looking at sparring factions in SA

A very astute commenter pointed out that the Saudis have called for an "extraordinary summit of Muslim leaders"

"as the Muslim world faces dangers of fragmentation and sedition"

Of course SA also called for the creation of a union which they would oversee and some of the other nations were not so hot on

One thing for sure, it's a dam mess
I think the hit on Assad was more likely via Israel, they have the proximity to Damascus and have been flying drones over Syria for some time now

Who killed Bandar though?
I suspect, as of right now, this was internal.

btw: hope all is well with you and yours

Oh and one more thing

Had a commenter from an area in Aleppo, Syria-

His hits matched the counter, not using a proxy.

His info was legit by all accounts
A Sunni, not impressed with the rebels. He knew they were very bad news.

Anyway, haven't seen a visit for days now...

I hope he is safe. If you wouldn't mind me asking, send some good thoughts to Syria, for the ordinary folk.

It's going to get ugly for them
without a doubt

A. Peasant said...

Hi Pen, thanks for coming by. Yup this bandar hit is a big mystery and I am leaning now toward it being an internal hit in SA also. Based on the cached article you posted, and other things I've read, bandar was running the entire show. That had to be a problem for a few people.

The only thing that would really be bad is if it was staged and he's just doing a disappearing act to run the show in secret. But if that were the case I think we would have been given a narrative show just like they've done before with fake deaths. The silence is really unusual. I hope he really is dead. Bitch that I am.

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