11/20/12

eleven twenty nine - UPDATED

UPDATE at the bottom...

This November 29th, the UN General Assembly will vote on upgrading Palestine to non-member status. On 11/29/47, the UN General Assembly voted to divide Palestine.


http://www.gregfelton.com/int_politics/2011_07_22.htm


The moment Israel stops being Israel it becomes Palestine. 

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Hamas was formally created in 1987 (25 years ago), and before that Hamas founder Sheikh Yassin's Islamist activities had been externally supported since the 1970s.

https://www.smalldemons.com/persons/politicians/Ahmed_Yassin

Hamas is a creation of the Mossad -- CIRCA 2002 article:
Thanks to the Mossad, Israel's "Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks", the Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat's Fatah Movement for National Liberation as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression and intimidation Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, "Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)".

Golda Meir

Back in the 1970s, Israeli PM Golda Meir began authorizing monies to fund an Islamist movement -- Yassin's -- to push against the PLO, to compete with and weaken the PLO via schools, health clinics, jobs run by the Islamist movement.

...when the Intifada (‘uprising’) began, in October 1987, which took the Islamists by surprise, Sheik [Ahmad] Yassin responded by creating the Hamas (The Islamic Resistance Movement)...The Hamas had built its strength through its various acts of sabotage of the peace process, in a way which was compatible with the interests of the Israeli government. In turn, the latter sought in a number of ways, to prevent the application of the Oslo accords. In other words, Hamas was fulfilling the functions for which it was originally created: to prevent the creation of a Palestinian State. And in this regard, Hamas and Ariel Sharon, see eye to eye; they are exactly on the same wave length.
To be clear, the 2002 analysis says Hamas was originally created to prevent the creation of a Palestinian State.

Click through for the details.

Has the goal of Hamas changed?

COLLATERAL DAMAGE?


http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2012/11/16/israel-s-operation-pillar-of-cloud



Sheikh Ahmad Yassin was assassinated by Israel in March 2004. Reportedly, Ariel Sharon himself ordered the hit.

By killing the spiritual leader of the Islamic Resistance Movement, Israel wanted to deal a deadly blow to Hamas, however the act had backfired. Israel granted Sheikh Yassin his greatest wish, gave unprecedented boost to the resistance movement in occupied Palestine, and made of him a resistance icon in the Arab and Islamic worlds.

The Israeli assassination of Yassin "backfired" by giving an unprecedented boost to the conflict that Israel needs to go on forever and ever and ever. Win win win.

Israel just last week assassinated another Hamas leader, Ahmad Jabari, just as he was negotiating a permanent truce with Israel. This will "backfire" too, giving an unprecedented boost to the conflict that Israel needs to go on forever and ever and ever. The conflict that prevents Palestinian statehood from coming.

Ahmad Jabari, image from telegraph.co.uk

Hamas actions will make things harder for Abbas as he pursues non-state membership for Palestine in the UN, with a vote on 11/29/12.

Israeli official: Palestinian statehood appeal to UN would nullify peace deals
Israel's vice premier says the Palestinians would violate their peace accords with Israel by seeking recognition of an independent state of Palestine at the United Nations. Moshe Yaalon told Army Radio on Wednesday that Israel would "have to take steps to make it clear that there will be heavy price" if the Palestinians go ahead with their plan to petition the U.N. General Assembly for statehood on Nov. 29. He said it would be a "flagrant" breach of the accords of the early 1990s but stopped short of saying they would be rendered void. But another official said Israel was sending out the message to world leaders that it would consider the accords nullified if the statehood bid goes ahead. He spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss confidential comments.

Israel would take steps? Such as war on Gaza? War with Hamas? Hamas which was created to prevent the creation of a Palestinian state?


Khaled Mechaal
 image from: lexpress.fr

Thierry Meyssan writes about the timing:

Why a New War on Gaza?

Two of the points made:
  1. Possibly this will resurrect an old plan to transfer the Palestinians to Jordan, thus evacuating and annexing their territory. "In this case, the military operation must not target all Hamas leaders indiscriminately, but only those who oppose the former political head of the organisation, Khaled Mechaal, since he is slated to become the first President of a Palestinian State in Jordan."
  2. The Syrian war has caused economic hardship in Jordan, leading to protests supervised by the Muslim Brotherhood, to follow other Arab takeovers in Morocco, Tunisia, Libya and Egypt. "The best-known member of the Jordanian Muslim Brotherhood is Khaled Mechaal, the ex-chief of the political branch of Hamas. Mechaal lived in exile from 2001 to 2012 in Damascus, under the protection of the Syrian state. In February 2012, he sudddenly accused Bashar al-Assad’s government of repressing his own people, and chose to move to Qatar, where Emir Hamad al-Thani showed him great generosity."
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/maps/middle-east/jordan/

Other Hamas leaders appear to have been targeted for assassination.

TEHRAN (FNA)- The residence and offices of a number of Hamas leaders were identified during the recent visit to the Gaza Strip by Qatar's King Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani and later targeted by Israeli missile and bomb attacks, informed sources disclosed. The emir of Qatar gifted a number of watches and ballpoint pens to Hamas leaders, which transmitted low-frequency signals to Israeli satellites, the sources, who asked to remain unnamed due to the sensitivity of the information, told FNA, adding that the Israeli military officials would then use the received signals to spot and assassinate senior Hamas officials.
Qatar Sheikh Hamad
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/10/25/qatar-interested-in-buying-christie-s-to-help-with-kingdom-s-museum-collection
"In the past year alone, Qatar, through its sovereign wealth fund, has taken a 10-percent in Volkswagen AG, bought famed London department store Harrods, acquired Singapore's historic Raffles hotel as well as the landmark US embassy building in London."


PRESUMABLY the Israeli military only assassinated the Hamas officials who were not on their payroll, or who were no longer cooperating. Presumably, Mr. Mechaal is on the payroll and will not be assassinated.

Hamas, like any large organization, has many people. Some of the people are honest. Some of them have hidden agendas.

How Israel actually helps Hamas, by Erin Cunningham 11/15/12


Five years ago Hamas won the Palestinian legislative lections, then seized power in Gaza after a brief civil war with its rival, Fatah. Sworn enemies of Israel, Hamas and the tiny, beleaguered territory they inherited were quickly placed under onerous international trade sanctions.
But instead of crippling Hamas’ rule, the years-long blockade has turned the movement into a wealthy enterprise with a far-reaching tax regime and widespread investments.
Hamas’ wealth has helped it win some local support, but the group’s mafia-style intrusion into sub-sectors of Gaza’s economy has frustrated others. Hamas leaders have positioned themselves as overlords of the territory’s business transactions.
In an effort to pressure Hamas, Israel often closes border crossings, choking off traditional commercial routes. This has allowed Hamas to consolidate control over smuggling tunnels under the Egyptian border.
“The traditional businessmen of Gaza, the traditional landowners, and the traditional [influential] families have all disappeared” in the past few years, said Eyad Sarraj, a Gazan psychiatrist and rights activist who also served as a consultant to the Palestinian delegation at the 2000 Camp David Accords.
“They are being replaced by new businessmen, new leaders and new families — families from the villages from where Hamas leaders come,” he said. “The big umbrella of power [in Gaza] today is Hamas. If you are under that umbrella, you can have some power.”
The full extent of Hamas’ financial empire remains unclear, as it hides much of its funding — including cash from patron states abroad — from scrutiny. But the movement is considerably better off than it was five years ago.
Let's recap that:
OVERLORDS of the territory's business transactions...
Using mafia-style intrusions into sub-sections of the economy...
To create a wide ranging financial enterprise...
An organization that benefited from the brutal Israeli blockade policy...
And supplanted traditional influential families...
And employs secrecy about foreign funding...
   


We are talking about Hamas here.


Hamas controls all the tunnels, one way or another. There are perhaps 400 main tunnels and 1000 subsidiary tunnels. Tens of thousands are employed by Hamas. Hamas controls economic life in Gaza. Hamas taxes every item that comes into Gaza through the tunnels.

Gaza tunnel trade: Matter of life and death for Hamas

A well-informed Palestinian source, speaking to Asharq Al-Awsat on the condition of anonymity, revealed that “the Hamas tunnel belongs to the [Hamas] movement, and Hamas affiliates are employed there, and this tunnel specializes in the smuggling and importing of special goods for the Hamas movement, including cars and arms.” He added that Hamas elements also uses the tunnel network to enter and exit the Gaza Strip.
As for the public tunnels, the source stressed that “these are owned by ordinary people, and they have partners, sometimes Egyptian Bedouins” adding “these tunnels are subject to Hamas supervision and specialize in the smuggling of goods and commodities.”

Hamas views the tunnels as a matter of life and death, whilst the Palestinian Authority [PA] – based in the West Bank – supports their closure and destruction. The PA has claimed that 600 new millionaires have made their fortunes thanks to the tunnels, at the expense of thousands of ordinary workers who are risking their lives. 

As noted, Hamas employs many people. People who are trying to survive in Gaza.

Gaza
http://ourwikiworld.blogspot.com/2010/07/amazing-facts-about-gaza-never-known.html

That is no reason not to scrutinize Hamas.

The US military employs many people. The FBI employs many people. The intelligence and police services employ many people. Corporations employ many people. Media companies employ many people.

So what. Do we not scrutinize organizations because we work for them, because our loved ones work for them? Because they pay us? Because they do some good things? In fact, it makes sense to scrutinize organizations all the more if we are giving our labor to them. In fact, many large organizations are full of corruption.

Some people don't do that. We understand. Are all these people corrupt? No. Many people are trying to survive, to pay their bills. People are trying to survive all over the world, and especially in Gaza. They remain COMPARTMENTALIZED. But certainly, many people in the US military, in the FBI, in the intelligence and police services, in corporations and media companies are certainly corrupt, and work for organized crime.

And Hamas, no doubt, has some corrupt people too, people who seem to be part of organized crime.

And why wouldn't this be so, given that Gaza is located in the WORLD HUB OF ORGANIZED CRIME?

We just want to suggest that we should notice these details.

The NYT tells us that, regrettably, the Palestinian Authority is losing credibility, and regrettably, Hamas is gaining popularity.

The West Bank, aka Little Bantustan
under control of the Palestine Authority
shredded by Israeli settlements and roads

"Gaza crisis poses threat to faction favored by US."

The Gaza truce talks in Cairo, involving Egypt, Turkey and Qatar, offer a telling tableau. The Palestinian leader seen there is not Mr. Abbas, but Khaled Meshal, the leader of the militant group Hamas, who seeks to speak for all Palestinians as his ideological brothers in the Muslim Brotherhood rise to power around the region.
Israel is also threatening Mr. Abbas, even hinting that it may give up on him, as he prepares to go to the United Nations General Assembly on Nov. 29 to try to upgrade the Palestinian status to that of a nonmember state. The Israelis consider this step an act of aggression, and even some Palestinians say it is somewhat beside the point at this stage.

The Hamas leader Meshal, allied with the MB, is meeting with the other tools from Egypt, Turkey and Qatar. Meantime Israel threatens Abbas over the statehood issue. And which part of this cabal is not supported by the US? Just Mr. Abbas.

Many Palestinians believe that Israel launched its latest operation in Gaza to block the Palestinian Authority’s United Nations plans by embarrassing it. Israeli officials say that is ridiculous: the operation’s purpose is to stop the growing number of rockets being fired at their communities, and Israelis interrupted their deliberations over the United Nations bid to wage the military campaign. 


It is not about the damn rockets. Palestinian statehood is the issue. The UN General Assembly vote on 11/29 is the issue.

See: win one lose one 
See: the trough so deep
See: getting ready to solve more problems
See: unintended consequences piling up
See: Bosnia in the hot seat
See: opening salvo in London

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UPDATE: 11/21/12

We think this term "DURABLE OUTCOME" term used by Hillary Clinton is mighty interesting.

"The goal must be a durable outcome that promotes regional stability and advances the security and legitimate aspirations of Israelis and Palestinians alike," Hillary told reporters in a joint media availability with Netanyahu here - her first stop in her current visit to the region.

We could be wrong but that term has not been tossed about until now. Durable. Hmm. Sounds like Final Solution stuff.

"They briefed her on the situation in Gaza and the threat posed by continuing rocket fire to Israeli cities and towns. The Secretary offered condolences for Israeli citizens killed and wounded in attacks today and over the past several days," Nuland said in Washington. Ahead of her meeting with Netanyahu, Hillary told reporters that Obama has emphasised on "durable outcome" in his multiple conversations with the Egyptian President.

Clinton and Nuland, State Department

The Jewess Nuland speaks. The threat? Continuing rocket fire to Israeli cities and towns. Regrettably nothing ever seems to stop that problem. No one can control those damn rockets. The poor Israeli citizens get the apology from Clinton. Does anyone apologize to the Palestinians who suffer ten thousand percent more? We must have missed that part. Obama also mentions the DURABLE OUTCOME in his conversations with Morsi. Clinton will now consult with Abbas.

She said the US would work with its partners in Israel and across the region towards an outcome that bolsters security for the people of Israel, improves conditions for the people of Gaza, and moves toward a comprehensive peace for all people of the region....Following the meeting, Nuland said in a statement issued in Washington that Hillary and Netanyahu discussed efforts to de-escalate the situation and bring about a sustainable outcome that protects Israel's security and improves the lives of civilians in Gaza.
We note the language.

What could be more durable than getting the Palestinians out of Gaza forever?

We note that moving the Palestinians to another location would be a SOLUTION that fits this language. If one accepts the goals as presented, and they sound so nice and reasonable, one can then be pressured to accept a SOLUTION which meets those goals. Well if you don't, you obviously don't CRAVE PEACE & YEARN FOR PEACE?? Note that the goals do not mention anything specifically that the Palestinians would stay in Gaza. The goal is just to IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GAZA.

Presumably, that could be accomplished by MOVING THE PEOPLE OF GAZA somewhere else. Somewhere with better conditions. The Palestinians have been conditioned to get on the move by those sweet pamphlets that the IOF helpfully dumped on them from airplanes.

Perhaps they can move to Jordan? Perhaps, since King Abdullah of Jordan is now coming under the threat of the Arab Spring, he could be persuaded to make a huge concession and be a hero and allow a Palestinian state to be established in Jordan... ? And then he could stay in power and Khaled Meshaal could be the leader of the Palestinians?

WIN WIN WIN???

Obama and Netanyahu are the presidents who magically resolve the problem, after all these years? OH the Legacy... The intractable problem finally solved.....?

The Palestinians in Gaza get IMPROVED CONDITIONS? And the Israelis get SECURITY? And the people of the region get a COMPREHENSIVE PEACE?? Everyone is So Happy?

OH, and, by the way, Israel would get control over those OIL AND GAS DEPOSITS OFF THE COAST OF GAZA?



This is about DIVIDE AND CONQUER. Except in this case, there is an extra step required because the Palestinians have been so difficult to subdue, and they keep having babies: DISPLACE.


Israel divided the Palestinians physically into two distinct areas, the West Bank and Gaza. CHECK. They divided the Palestinians politically as well. Hamas in Gaza, the Palestine Authority in the West Bank. CHECK.

Still, they have not been able to conquer the Palestinians.

In order to conquer and get the land, they need to move those pesky Palestinians out. Especially out of Gaza, because of the offshore oil and gas deposits. Blockades and punishment for Gaza, settlers and checkpoints for the West Bank.

Israel's "adversary" in Gaza is Hamas. The negotiations go between Israel and Hamas. The negotiations go back and forth, but the destination seems to be appearing on the horizon now: is that a Palestinian state in Jordan...?

Huh, is that paradise we see off in the distance? 
Paradise for whom?


Anyone who has sailed knows that when you head into the wind, you have to tack back and forth to get to your destination.

That is what we see from here. We could be too far away, or we could be just the right distance.

29 comments:

Anon said...

Excellent.

Good to learn about Khaled Mechaal.

- Aangirfan

A. Peasant said...

thank you Aan. Mechaal seems to be an important figure in the team NATO + israel plans.

freethinker said...

Isn't the 'dialectic' a wonderful weapon for doing war by deception?

Who would suspect that Israel would found and support Islamicist Hamas; or that the Zionist West would now be supporting and promoting Islamicist organizations such as the Al-Queda (tm) franchise or The Muslim Brotherhood; or that International Jewish bankers (surely the acme of capitalism) would have financed Carl Marx then establish and support the 20th century Communist Revolutions?

A. Peasant said...

hi freethinker. yes they really have it down to a science after all that practice. and hopefully many more people have got watching them and understanding what is going on down to a science also.

Anonymous said...

Excellent article, Peasant!

That move of Meshaal out of Syria was indeed a "look-there" moment. At the beginning of the violence there, people around Meshaal forced Palestinians to go protest at the israeli border, and the israelis shot a bunch of them according to accounts.

If the Hamas was all that pro-Palestinian they'd behave different. Already in the 2009 massacre they shot perhaps thousands of rockets at israel and caused minimal damage, this time around same thing. To me it makes no sense at all because immediately north of Gaza is the Zikim training base and just north is a giant refinery. If they hit the refinery good, and it is indefensible against even a modicum of the crappy rockets they use, Hamas could put out the lights in half israel and damn the consequences because Palestinians in Gaza really have nothing left to lose. Second thing is they apparently haven't even tried to build tank traps at the borders, third thing is they have also apparently failed to even attempt to put all military age males AND females into military training and build a militia, what would be the first thing I'd do in their situation. All that and the general complaints from Gazans that they are being bled dry by that parasitic mafia makes Hamas more than suspect as you say.

There is also another angle on al-Thani, a Palestinian view. When the Sheikh went to Gaza it was apparently to propose Hamas to create an Emirate (islamic principality) and obviously to show that they have diplomatic support. Due to that act alone, Abbas, who is generally looked at like a turd due to his unbridled looting of the Palestinians in the West Bank and his craven collaboration with the israelis, went to his israeli masters and incited them to attack Gaza in order to keep his status with them - it would not be out of character, and he did exactly that back in the runup to the 2009 massacre.

A. Peasant said...

excellent points. it is always useful to think about what *should* have happened but didn't. there has been plenty of time for hamas to think about and create effective strategies of resistance, and they obviously have all these tunnels at disposal, so what exactly is their excuse?

a compromised strategy and stupid tactics only seem to get a lot of palestinians killed, and for what.

now we are seeing a lot of hype about the israeli spies killed in Gaza and their bodies dragged around.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1290316--gaza-conflict-hamas-militants-kill-6-suspected-informers-for-israel-reports

hamas informants working for israel -- not recommended! because it is evil. but the focus in western media is, naturally, the brutality of hamas for executing them. the daily mail has about ten pics with the warning, graphic photos, as they go ahead and show pic after pic because it makes hamas look like villians, and the IOF of course is so sweet dropping pamphlets and telling the palestinians that they certainly do not want to harm them or their families.

also more about events in Jordan here:

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3463/jordan-king-abdullah

these links found at there are no sunglasses.

A. Peasant said...

also worth noting that the uproar over the israeli informants killed by hamas makes no mention of the Qatar gifts.

Anonymous said...

Without trying to sound like a broken record, another excellent piece AP. Though I've come to expect no less!

A report on the radio today about a bomb having been 'thrown' onto an Israeli bus but the identity of the perpetrator not being known.... Hmmm, very convenient.

And as for those pesky rockets!

According to Wikipedia (I know, I know) Since 2001 there have been an alleged 12,791 rockets coming out of Gaza, with effect of 61 dead and 1,719 injured. Hardly a successful strategy.

Edo

A. Peasant said...

many thanks Edo. exactly correct about the Tel Aviv attack. i have just unpacked a ridiculous little story here:

http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Amid-Gaza-diplomacy-bomb-blasts-Tel-Aviv-bus-4055588.php

i might put a post up about it. it extends the narrative further. but i want to leave this post up top for now.

do you have a link for the "thrown" reference? love those little inconsistencies.

just a few observations:

how do they know the man put the bomb on the bus and got off? or threw the bomb? witnesses? how can they not find him in tel aviv in broad daylight in front of the military hq?

so LUCKY that no one was killed huh? 27 wounded only 3 seriously.

and does hamas *really* want to open the borders? wouldn't that wreck their lucrative tunnel business? wouldn't that drain a lot of hamas economic and political power? hmm. we are not seeing how this all makes sense unless hamas, at the top levels, is on the payroll.

Anonymous said...

It was a BBC Radio 4 news broadcast at around 5pm (i was driving home from work) and I distinctly remember the reporter saying the bomb was thrown onto the bus, with the perp making a getaway. An Israeli spokesman said a girl had lost an arm and others were injured from shrapnel.

Edo

A. Peasant said...

that's sad about the girl. well, time to look over the initial reports... thanks Edo.

freethinker said...

Tacking back and forth between Hamas and Israel - its the Dialectic again. The dialectic might be a one-off synthesis of thesis and anti-thesis but its more likely to be repeated ad-nauseam; back and forth, left and right over and over so that the careless observer doesn't notice the net 'progress' in one intended direction.

Similar metaphors-
going up a steep hill by a switch-back road;
or more gruesome, my favourite, the pendulum of E.A.Poe - swish, click, swish, click, swish, click...oh bugger!

A. Peasant said...

Hi freethinker,
Yes that is the insight i had also, that the timeline is stretched so long, with periods of inactivity, that the overall progression is hardly noticed. But when examined from enough distance, the course appears.

This snails pace makes it seem that it cant be orchestrated, but of course students of history know that we are dealing with creatures who make very long term plans.

freethinker said...

Here is an example of the Zig-Zag Dialectic showing the evolution of communism in the USSR:
Marxist Dialectic diagram,
Zig-Zag text.

Anonymous said...

just to cut to the chase...

when exactly did the children of israel transform into the gog & magog khazar proselytes to talmudic judaism ?

http://www.armyenlist.com/mos/intelligence-analyst-intel-analyst/

for those who would like some tactical nukes of TRUE info...

http://palestine-encyclopedia.com/EPP/Start.htm

properly administered this tactical nuke info will reduce the zionist TALMUDIC lies to ashes...

http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/ISAAC-13.htm

can't seem to pull up Boaddicea..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDrNQcG_RS4&feature=related

neighborhood watch

A. Peasant said...

freethinker, great links. this is precisely the idea. zig zag progress.

notice also that we do not hear about hezbollah. it was all hezbollah all the time for the past few years, the big boogeyman, and now hamas just suddenly pops out of nowhere and hezbollah goes quiet.

there is reportedly tension between the two groups.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5irXVlNO0kfnpGzH1dzbW6V7H9HGA?docId=d31171c73d634e668ed57a93c1f7b057

that bulgarian FALSE FLAG bus incident is coming back up because the result of the probe will determine if hezbollah can be branded afresh as terrorists.

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=145405

A. Peasant said...

anonymous, thank you for the links. the encyclopedia link is amazing.

A. Peasant said...

Freethinker check out the whiner krauthammer as he explains this is only until the next round.

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/15604

What a piece of shit,

A. Peasant said...

In fact a review of news shows that this "only till the next round" meme is in full swing. Very busy zigging and zagging. They must have someplace to get to.

freethinker said...

Something's cooking for sure. Israel accepted the Egyptian cease-fire plan much too readily. Something is going to happen that will force Israel reluctantly (of course) to retaliate hard and after they have been so nice and accepted the cease-fire and all...

There's the smell a false-flag against Iran in the air.
Re that Krauthammer 'piece', I was taken by the Mac from Arizona comment.

This article is breathtaking- Hamas militants may have received new weapons from Iran through Sudan, experts say

A. Peasant said...

hi again,
you know i read that article yesterday also, and i laughed. the thing is these viewpoints are so insular. it's not the sort of stuff that gets paraded around everywhere anymore, it's just the ziowingnuts and their sites who keep passing around to each other. heritage, hudson, and the various think tanks and their followers.

"old sarge" in GA and "mac" in AZ, yes they are the sorts of americans who just love israel more than anything. real patriots and hasbarat trolls.

Anonymous said...

That's some detailed info,,,
I'm just glad the bombs have stopped,,
And surely now it is blatantly obvious to the entire world
That Israel as a state is completely psychopathic,,
Utterly insain,,,

Good read as usual mrs peasant,,,neil

freethinker said...

Jonathan Azaziah had some interesting insights in his Ugly-Truth broadcast. To paraphrase the 2 most important points (IMO)-

It was a preplanned operation (IDF have admitted that in tweets) to:

Cull certain factions within Hamas and Islamic Jihad and make Hamas more suitable as a united face of Palestine with the deposing of the PA.

Raise the status of Qatar, Turkey, Egypt & the Muslim Brotherhood (the Axis of Collaborators) especially amongst the leftists and anti-imperialists who have already swallowed the 'Arab Spring' narrative; hence marginalise support for the real friends of the Palestinians Syria, Hezbollah and Iran in preparation of a fresh campaign against them. This explains why Israel appeared to hand victory to Morsi on a silver platter.

A. Peasant said...

Hi neil, good to see you. The disconnect between what we all see and what we are told we see is just impassable. But, that will not stop them. I do not really know what will.

A. Peasant said...

Freethinker, that sounds dead on to me. News stories are tacking along those exact lines. I think they will have to strike while the iron is hot. Not sure they expected the pushback against morsi. The egyptian judiciary is organizing against him. Hillary must hve given him a long leash but maybe he will wrap himself around a tree.

freethinker said...

Gaza confrontation showcases new Sunni bloc

"
Operation Pillar of Defense and the means by which it was concluded have showcased the arrival of a new player in Middle East strategy and diplomacy: an alliance of Sunni Islamist states and movements, including Hamas, in which Egypt plays the central role. The birth of this Sunni Islamist bloc is the main product of the changes that swept the Arab world in 2011.
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The key question at that point was how Muslim Brotherhood-controlled Egypt would react. This was a test case; the first confrontation between Israel and Hamas-Gaza since the downfall of the Mubarak regime.
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The rise of the Brotherhood to power in Egypt gave Hamas an enormous boost. As a result, the movement was able to extricate itself from its impossible position as a guest of a Syrian regime engaged in the slaughter of Hamas’s fellow Muslim Brothers.
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The main result of Operation Pillar of Defense was to make clear that the relations between Israel and the Palestinian representative of this new bloc – Hamas – constitute the most significant front of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The Ramallah-led West Bank Palestinian Authority was a largely invisible irrelevance over the past weeks.

The natural relations between Israel and the Sunni Islamist bloc are of conflict. The evidence resulting from Operation Pillar of Defense suggests, however, that at least for the moment this conflict can be managed – for as long as Israel remains the militarily dominant side and Egypt remains economically dependent on Western aid."

A. Peasant said...

freethinker, i am going to try to get a follow up post going. this is just too easy. did martha stewart herself put this together because i have never seen such a neat and tidy wrap up of a war? apparently they got rid of whichever people in hamas were actually resisting, and they are wasting no time getting on with the next steps.

The main result of Operation Pillar of Defense was to make clear that the relations between Israel and the Palestinian representative of this new bloc – Hamas – constitute the most significant front of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The Ramallah-led West Bank Palestinian Authority was a largely invisible irrelevance over the past weeks.

not only was that the "main result" but it was no doubt the "main goal." now the negotiations can be all in-house, as they say.

freethinker said...

Some good points made here also: Iron Dome, Pillar of Cloud, and Netanyahu's Next War

A. Peasant said...

indeed, that's an excellent analysis. thanks for that link.

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