2/11/09

Tzipi better have her tires checked

Another nail-biter election. What is up with that? This AP story says that no matter who comes out on top, the political wrangling will go on for weeks. In my book, a positive development. That gives the world time to let the dust settle in Gaza. Maybe the Hague will be able to investigate all those war crimes committed against the Palestinians. Despite all the evidence, this issue has been stalled because of the legal definitions of statehood, but the next few weeks could be enough to iron that out. If so, the war crimes charges would keep Israel off-balance.

The issue has raised the question of whether Palestinian officials hope to obtain an implicit recognition of statehood through the court.

The court "will not use the term statehood," said a legal expert close to the case who asked not to be named because the issue was still being decided. "The court will avoid defining whether Palestine is a state. The decision will be only if Palestine can be admitted for the purposes of the court statute."

The Palestinian officials visiting The Hague in coming days are expected to try to demonstrate that they have been allowed to sign other international treaties and conventions and can therefore be accepted as a party to the 1998 Rome Treaty that founded the court.

Uncertainty in the Israeli elections also allows some breathing room for US negotiations with Iran. And it allows our economic situation to deteriorate in the comfort of our own living rooms. Silver linings, people. Silver linings. A few weeks is an eternity in the present time-warp we live in.

11 comments:

Greg Bacon said...

What difference will it make to Palestinians or the Lebanese if Bennie "Dahlmer" wins or Tzipi "Bundy" wins?

Both serial killers/mass murderers will go off on what Israeli's enjoy, murderous massacres of the Palestinians or Lebanese and possibly the Syrians.

The closest to a peacemaker Israel had was Rabin and you see what his own people did to him.

For years and years, I always tried to keep separate the street Israeli's from their never end parade of psychotic leaders.

After what happened in Lebanon in 2006 and most recently Palestine, I don't think I can draw that distinction and that's not good for me.

A. Peasant said...

I agree it doesn't matter much who wins, but I think the uncertainty and delay are good. It's hard to imagine, with all the dirt coming out about Israel every day, that a few weeks of political downtime and turmoil will be good for their plans. That's what I'm trying to say. This little detour gives the rest of the world some time to get in other positions, rather than always being forced into a defensive crouch because of non-stop Israeli aggression.

Sis said...

The Israeli elections are as bizarre as the Israeli thought process.

Seems Avigdor Lieberman will swing towards Tzipi. Although she is portrayed as less evil than Netanyahu, I can't imagine anything more dangerous than a Livni-Avigdor combination, especially she gets PMS, which appears to occur frequently.

I'm not so sure a moderate Israeli government would be the right thing for the Palestinian cause right now, anyway. These nutcases are finally being exposed for what they are and lets hope they don't hide behind a zio-lite ideology, which is really the same as zionism, but with a nicer tone.

Greg Bacon said...

Here's a story about the dreaded "anti-Semiticism" creeping into people's minds, and one of the more educated replies.

Poll: 31% of Europeans blame Jews for global financial crisis

A recent survey conducted by the Anti-Defamation League found that anti-Semitic attitudes in seven European countries have worsened due to the global financial crisis and Israel's military actions against the Palestinians...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1063092.html

And one of the replies.

Before you accuse Europeans of anti-semitism, ask whether it is true that there are many Jews in the finaincial industry and whether they were responsible for anthing. It is a factual question that can be answered factually. Then make the argument one way or another, instead of jumping to conculusions about anti-semitism.
If we are taking measures against ALL Arabs because 19 of them comitted a criminal act on September 11, we can talk about ALL JEWS.
You cannot have it both ways.

A. Peasant said...

Greg, such a thought criminal...talking about facts and logic. tsk tsk.

Sis, I hear you. We'll be on that case, though, right? Let's get the ducks in order here.

Sis said...

The zionists got Palestine as their consolation prize for having to live with anti-semitism.

We need to be careful not to fall into this trap again. They created anti-semitism in the 30's and they are trying to bring on a new wave of it again.

The new definition of zionism is the desire for Jews, who were persecuted at the hands of evil Germany, to long for a safe haven in the world. Therefore, if we say that zionism is evil, we are being anti-semitic. We can not let this definition of zionism stick. Zionism must be exposed for what it really is. At the same time, we should call "these people" either zionists or zionist supporters, not Jews. To do so would add fuel to the fire and I'm not sure I'm ready to give zionists anymore of our planet to appease their victimized souls.

Greg Bacon said...

To do so would add fuel to the fire and I'm not sure I'm ready to give zionists anymore of our planet to appease their victimized souls.

Unless you support wholeheartedly anything and everything that Zionist entity does, then you are considered "anti-Semitic."

Sis said...

...and that is what we (and Jews, especially) must fight against. Zionists are not Jews, they are zionists. There are more zionists in New York/New Jersey than all of Israel.

Zionists, not Jews, have ruined our financial system and our government. They are trying to water down the Christian faith as well as Judaism in order to weaken it.

The original Zionists are secular. It is only since the 70's that we see this new face of zionism as being these ultra-conservative fanatics. The religious zealots are not the ones I worry about. I worry about the true zionists that are tring to build a socialist world empire.

Greg Bacon said...

Wonder if the Zionists, if they get Bishop Williamson silenced, will next go after these brave souls?

Hours after historic visit to Jerusalem holocaust museum, group of German bishops tour Palestinian Authority, say Israel behaving like Nazis

Eldad Beck 03.06.07

BERLIN - "This morning we saw pictures of the Warsaw ghetto at Yad Vashem and this evening we are going to the Ramallah ghetto." Several hours earlier on Sunday you probably would not have heard German Bishop Gregor Maria Franz Hanke choose such a divisive analogy.

But then on Sunday morning he was still in Israel and the rhetoric was considerably different than the one elected by the German Bishops' Conference once they crossed over in to the Palestinian Authority on Sunday evening.
The visit of 27 members of the German Bishops' Conference to Israel included a historic first-time visit to the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial museum in Jerusalem as well as guided tours of sites holy to Christianity and meetings with Christian congregations in Israel and in the Palestinian Authority.

During their time in Israel the bishops uniformly made moderate and balanced statements, but once in the PA they provided German reporters accompanying them with a plethora of harsh proclamations against Israel. Their criticism received widespread coverage in the German media on Monday.

While crossing one of the checkpoints into East Jerusalem the Archbishop of Cologne, Cardinal Joachim Meisner, told reporters: "This is something that is done to animals, not people." Meisner, a resident of eastern Germany, said that the fence reminded him of the Berlin Wall and that in his lifetime he did not believe he would see such a thing again. As the Berlin Wall was brought down so will this wall be brought down, he said, adding that the fence served no purpose.

The delegation's visit to Ramallah took place several hours after their visit to Yad Vashem and several of the bishops chose to equate the situation in the Palestinian Authority with the Holocaust.

"Cages in the image of ghettos," said the Bishop of Augsburg of the territories. Augsburg was once under the spiritual leadership of Pope Benedict XVI, who was Archbishop of the Munich-Freising Archdiocese and his brother Monsignor Georg Ratzinger still resides there.

"Israel has, of course, the right to exist, but this right cannot be realized in such a brutal manner," said Bishop Hanke, who later stated that he intends to amend this year's Easter message to German churches so as to include the delegation's political impressions from their visit to the territories and a demand to change the situation.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3373013,00.html

Sis said...

The focal point of the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial Museum is the bay window that overlooks a breathtaking and unobstructed view of Israel. Had Israelis not slaughtered 120 villagers of Deir Yassin, in 1948, and forced the rest to flee, the village would be smack-dab in the center of this pictoral view.
I wonder, when they look out this window, if they see the clean sweep of ethnic cleansing or just a beautiful view. I imagine their feeling is pride.

Greg Bacon said...

Yad Vashem?

Israel's own Disney World, where nothing is like it seems?

"Welcome to Holocaust™ World, where will take you on a trip thru fantasy land. Please leave your common sense, ability to think and your wallet with one of our Stepford assistants!"

"Any politicians in the group? Good!! We'll supply you people with knee pads, but not if your from the US Congress. You clowns will not get any knee pads, but you will get a clean hanky and some KY Jelly to help facilitate some hot "one on one" action with your Yeshiva guide."

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