You can also see that these big circles have lots of RAIN next to them, and this is all happening close to Omaha. Common sense tells you that those perfectly circular radar signatures are man made. You can find many examples of shapes at the citizen website. Here's a square. Here's a psychedelic starburst. Often the shapes become visible in the patterns of precipitation.
We don't mean to belabor the obvious, but the shapes and the precipitation go together. Whoever has the technology to make the shapes also has the technology to make the rain.
So what on earth would possess these people, whoever they are and we can imagine, to make rain over the Missouri River basin when everything is already way past flood stage and ready to burst into catastrophe?
Here, here, here, here....
We don't mean to belabor the obvious, but the shapes and the precipitation go together. Whoever has the technology to make the shapes also has the technology to make the rain.
So what on earth would possess these people, whoever they are and we can imagine, to make rain over the Missouri River basin when everything is already way past flood stage and ready to burst into catastrophe?
Here, here, here, here....
Oh, we don't know..... maybe evil, sadistic intent?
"We have been riding a pretty thin edge and regrettably, the storms over the last several days have really pushed the Souris River basin into territory that we have never seen before," said Allen Schlag, a hydrologist at the National Weather Service's office in Bismarck, North Dakota. (6/21/11, Reuters)
Might there be an AGENDA in play?
A cattle commodities broker, Anne Barnhardt, writes that the Army Corps of Engineers is offering to buy farm land in Missouri. Also, that George Soros has been investing in farmland through a company called Ospraie Capital.
Find more information here.
There are folks who are confused as to how the situation with regards to the Missouri River dams could be the fault of the Army Corps of Engineers. After all, isn’t the amount of rainfall an Act of God? [NO. - ed.]More information on the letter:
This is not a FLASH flooding dynamic. This isn’t happening because it rained three feet in 24 hours. The largest factor in this flooding is the runoff coming from the melting of the snowpack in the Rocky Mountains. The snowpack is precisely measured and the number of acre-feet of water that will be drained into the Missouri River basin each spring is a precisely known value. If you don’t believe me, pull up the website for ANY ski resort. They will have DETAILED snowpack depth data updated on a near-daily basis. One could work up usable data based just off of the ski resorts – but we also have frequent and detailed snowpack measurements coming from the National Forests and National Parks. I am hard-pressed to think of a meteorological dataset that has the precision, reliability and lead time that the runoff from the snowpack has. The Army Corps of Engineers knew to the acre-foot how much water was coming, and when it would arrive (summer tends to happen at roughly the same time each year).
Knowing that we had a RECORD snowpack this year, the ACoE should have opened the Missouri dam system up starting early in the spring so as to gently and gradually draw-down the reservoirs and give each dam system enough slack to absorb the snowpack runoff. They intentionally did not do this, and citing “wildlife habitat” concerns in collusion with the Marxist-Environmentalists, they kept the reservoirs full, thus ensuring that when the snowpack runoff arrived, it would have nowhere to go. Again, this was all 100% unnecessary and 100% intentional. I don’t care how many C- affirmative action hires they have, there is absolutely no way that this was a function of being “surprised” by water that has been measured and sitting in the Rocky Mountains for MONTHS. Snowpack of Quantity X inches yields runoff of Quantity Y acre-feet. It is a liner function that any Beavis or Butthead could have looked up on a table.
Corps letter causes dust-upApparently the Army Corps of Engineers controls, essentially, this water system:
Army Corps of Engineers officials are blaming “unfortunate timing” for some ruffled feathers over a letter that recently was sent to 17 northwest Missouri residents.
A copy of the letter, obtained by The Star, showed the Army Corps offering to buy private land along the Missouri River for a wildlife conservation project. The letter was dated June 6, when floodwaters were beginning to rise.“Some people took it as a slap in the face,” said Tom Waters, president of the Missouri Levee and Drainage District Association, which represents a consortium of interests along the river.
Karl Mueller, chief of civil works for the Army Corps’ Kansas City office, said the agency was not taking advantage of the flooding to buy land and that the letters were part of a longstanding project. He said several people interested in selling their property had called.
Army Engineers flood 130,000 acres of Missouri farmland to save blighted Illinois town of 2,800
We have not read much that's good about the Army Corps of Engineers. It's a scary thought that they are managing the flow of all that water. We would not want to live in New Orleans.
A federal judge on Friday ruled that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers can blow up a Mississippi River levee, which would flood Missouri farmland but prevent the flooding of an Illinois town.
NYTimes May 2nd update: Missouri has appealed to the US Supreme Court, while at this moment, explosives are being packed.
May 3rd update below. The levee was exploded and farmland flooded. U.S. District Judge Stephen N. Limbaugh Jr. [appointed by Bush in 2008 and related to Rush Limbaugh] ruled that the Corps had the right to breach the levee to prevent flooding in Cairo, Illinois, as permitted by a 1928 law....The corps has said that flowage easements attached to the farmers’ property deeds allowed them to breach the levee.
Hmm, let's see here. This seems pretty simple actually. Mismanage giant water system + use weather modification to overfill giant water system = flooding of biblical proportions. Flooding of biblical proportions justifies opening levees and resulting in destruction of farmland. Government buys up now useless farmland. Win win win win.
Land grabbing. Grab the land ==> control the food and water. Control the food and water ==> control the people. All that's needed is a JUSTIFICATION to grab the land in the first place. CONVENIENTLY, that has been arranged, thanks to Mother Nature (wink wink wink).
State and private investors, from Citadel Capital to Goldman Sachs, are leasing or buying up tens of millions of hectares of farmlands in Asia, Africa and Latin America for food and fuel production. This land grabbing is a serious threat for the food sovereignty of our peoples and the right to food of our rural communities.
...With the current farmland grab, corporate driven globalisation has reached a new phase that will undermine peoples’ self-determination, food sovereignty and survival as never before. The WB and many governments see land and rights to land, as a crucial asset base for corporations seeking high returns on capital since land is not only the basis for producing food and raw materials for the new energy economy, but also a way to capture water.
We could go on but you get the idea.
Well, that's laid it out as easy as 1-2-3!
Thanks, AP. you've brought a lot of clarity to this episode of the continuing and confusing war against the people
Those radar images were really interesting AP. This is certainly playing out exactly as described here. I’m not sure of the flooding of nuke power plants are an unfortunate oversight or a bonus to the plan. I know which way my cynical mind is pointing.
Cheers AP. If anyone is interested in the subject of Haarp rings Dutchsinse has daily updates of those observed globally at his youtube channel. He is doing independent radiation monitoring in the USA and also reports on general weather phenomena. See what you make of it.
Thanks AP! I was going to post something on this but you beat me to the punch.
Check out this article http://tinyurl.com/672hqzl on how this ties into UN Agenda 21 and Executive Order 13575 that President Obama signed on June 9, 2011 which establishes "the White House Rural Council, with goals to take complete control of public lands and rural areas for development. This aligns with the purposes of Agenda 21, a United Nations environment and development program that removes local say in how lands and farms are managed. “Virtually every aspect of rural life seems to now be part of the government’s mission,” .
Executive Order 13575 escaped much notice having been slipped in during Weinergate.
Here's the gang that will be representing the 'rural' interests:
The Department of the Treasury; Timothy Geithner, The Department of Defense; Robert Gates, The Department of Justice; Eric Holder, The Department of the Interior; Ken Salazar, The Department of Commerce; Gary Locke, The Department of Labor; Hilda Solis, The Department of Health and Human Services; Kathleen Sebelius, The Department of Housing and Urban Development; Shaun Donovan, The Department of Transportation; Ray LaHood, The Department of Energy; Dr. Steven Chu, The Department of Education; Arne Duncan, The Department of Veterans Affairs; Eric Shinseki, The Department of Homeland Security; Janet Napolitano, The Environmental Protection Agency; Lisa Jackson, The Federal Communications Commission; Michael Copps, The Office of Management and Budget; Peter Orszag, The Office of Science and Technology Policy; John Holdren, The Office of National Drug Control Policy; R. Gil Kerlikowske, The Council of Economic Advisers; Austan Goolsbee, (The Domestic Policy Council; Melody Barnes (former VP at Center for American Progress), The National Economic Council; Gene B. Sperling, The Small Business Administration; Karen Mills, The Council on Environmental Quality; Nancy Sutley, The White House Office of Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs; Valerie Jarrett,
And just in case they missed anyone or needed more help, The White House Office of Cabinet Affairs; and such other executive branch departments, agencies, and offices as the President or Secretary of Agriculture may, from time to time, designate. Chris Lu (or virtually anyone to be designated by the 24 people named above).
And this is another good article "http://www.naturalclimatechange.us/GlobalGreenDictatorship.html ,"Green Global Dictatorship: Regional Governance, UN Agenda 21, Sustainable Development, and the Wildlands Project" about the linkages between the IUCN (International Union for the Conservation of Nature), Sustainable Development, UN Agenda 21 and host of NGO's and supporting agencies.
"In order to subvert the sovereignty of the United States and the individual states guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution, a parallel and entirely unconstitutional governance structure, termed “Regional Government,” has been covertly established over the past half century … Regional government is the method by which the global ruling elite is slowly dismantling the sovereignty and constitutional protections of the world’s nations … using United Nations dictates, globalists have divided the planet into ten regions. North America is Region 1, South America is Region 6, etc. As has already been accomplished in Europe with the European Union, their plan calls for merging the North and South American regions through establishing trade agreements like the FTAA (Free Trade Agreement of the Americas) and a common currency. "
I also read in another article (about the flooding in Minot area) that the Red Cross has somehow integrated with FEMA. I don't have the link on hand to that piece and I can't remember exactly what was said but the arrangement struck me as being shady because I had previously been reading about how the evil ones are using the UN and NGO's to implement their One World Agenda.
@Chuckyman - my mind has been pointing in exactly the same direction. :)
My original comment seems to have disappeared (I tried twice) so maybe it has been relegated to the spam folder. Can you check? Thanks?
This is still only a rumour but the military has allegedly just completed the setting of charges on 25% of the face of Gavins Point Dam of the SD/NE line (wherever that is) as it is cracking under the strain. http://www.truthwinds.com/siterun_data/environment/water_flooding/news.php?q=1309367488
We LOVES us some crisis, don't we?
Makes us feel all warm inside when the TVer man tells us it's all over.
It's like these people read Naomi Klein's book as a "how-to" manual.
Or as Obama's main man said: "We don't want to waste a crisis!"
hi all, McJ sorry your comment did go to spam but i fetched it outta there, and i will reply more thoroughly in a bit.
C, aren't the images something? i'm glad people are putting them on a forum like that. as for the nuclear catastrophe, it's just waiting to happen. there are way too many things that can go wrong.
hi John, dutchsinse has put a lot of good youtubes out there. i do wonder about him however. he said something recently which came up in a comment thread here or somewhere, and i found it naive, and he doesn't seem naive so it was a little O_o if you know what i mean. it was about the X37B spaceship. if i can track it down i'll give you a point to it.
yes i noticed while researching that this is a big rabbit hole, and to be honest i wanted to keep going but i also wanted to get something up because i have much less time to blog now. so i just stopped at this point. no question there are many avenues to follow up.
looking at your links, it seems that these huge problems are needed to justify huge, over-reaching government solutions. at the same time, the local level is balkanized and defanged. somewhere on this blog is a map of the US all balkanized as a result of Agenda 21.
i don't know the post but here's the map:
it's a reserve and corridor system to protect biodiversity.
C, it would astonish me if something major *didn't* give way. and given the track record, it looks like they are prepared for other people to make some sacrifices so that they can look proactive.
Suzan, yup it looks like reverse engineering.
What with Los Alamos slowly burning down , yer N.Dakota rubber ring, how about this one from the UK:
Jellyfish close down Thorness :)
It also mentions that plants in Japan have been disrupted by large numbers of jellyfish as a kind of throwaway comment.
Tricky things these nurcleur rackters!
ferris, you know i have a category over at the wordpress site for freak jellyfish mishaps?
it only has a few items in there so thank you very much, i will include this one.
odd that i just mentioned this the other day to A13 as it came up in a conversation about swimming in northern Oz.
i think it is very instructive for us to consider what JELLYFISH CAN DO, the lowly jellyfish, with not a bone in it's body, can ride a splash and sting an unsuspecting fisherman, and shut down a nuclear power plant by working together.
inspiring. our new mascot?
here's a comment from Nobody who had trouble with teh booger letting him post it:
The way I figure it now, instead of approaching things from a this-event-that-event angle I just come from a position of: we're ruled by a death cult who'll who'll stop at nothing and whip out a big lie like I'd whip out a 10mm spanner. No big deal. And if they can do it, they will do it. Do what thou wilt. And, sure enough, the more evil it is, the greater the casualties, the greater the suffering, the more likely they are to do it. Could they do it? Would they do it? Sure! Floods, devastation, penury, suffering - it's all good, and more is more.
That aside, I'm thinking that we need to tie weather control to global warming. I'd previously considered global warming to be a con (natch!), the purpose of which was to head us into a one world government by way of the global 'carbon' currency remedy. And it is that. But with the death cult nothing is a onefer - it's always a twofer minimum. Okay so how about this: global warming as an ideal smoke-screen to explain otherwise impossible weather (ie. man-made). That works doesn't it? As we all know global warming is global cooling is global warming - it doesn't really matter which. It's mad weather which doesn't make a lick of sense. The coldest winters ever? Global warming! The hottest, driest Summers ever? Global warming! Rains, droughts, tornadoes, impossible radar images, hell, earthquakes! It's all good and all explained by way of the magic words 'global warming'. And sure enough anyone who says otherwise is a 'denier', the worst thing in the world. That's pretty good cover.
Frankly, if you had the ability to control the weather (which is what the chap who invented HAARP said it was in the patent itself) and you were going to use it to sweep entire areas of humans and then snap it all up at bargain prices, then you'd almost have to invent something like global warming as a cover story to allow you to get away with it. "Hmm... this weather is going to look whacky. People are going to question it. How can we explain it all away?" "Here's a thought - what if..." etc. etc.
Actually, I just reminded myself of that Mel Gibson flick Heart of Darkness. Have you seen it? It's not bad. In fact, it's really interesting. There's a scene it where the motherfuckers are sitting around in a room conducting a brainstorming session in order to figure out how to: kill their detractors; paint the victims as villains; make money; and walk away, not just scot-free, but lionised in the process. You've never seen anything quite like it. When I saw it, I instantly thought "That's how it would look". All it needed was a larger room with more people (one of whom would have to be Henry Kissinger) and I'm pretty sure you'd be in amongst a death cult (which is to say Bilderberger / CFR / Trilateral Commission) meeting. It's worth checking out in spite of Mel Gibson and his one-note histrionics.
i agree, and this is pretty much the conclusion i came to also after the pakistan floods. these two posts:
Thus, we see the weight and speed of the narrative moving from Global Warming to Coming Ice Age. You see, a problem arose. The science behind global warming has been exposed as a scam. Oh shit, said the globalists. Those fucking Russian hackers. We can't put it back together. Whatever shall we do now? Quickly! We need to swing the pendulum to the other extreme! The Ice Age Cometh! Let's make sure not to stop at all the weather manipulation / human intervention / chemtrails etc. that we did. Let's go directly to blaming everything on the sun.
In other words, after the weather causes "massive life and property losses," people will finally demand that Something Must Be Done about the crazy, deadly weather. So of course it would be completely ridiculous to suppose that halfway through this plan 1) they already have the technology, and 2) they use it to cause "massive life and property losses," so that 3) we will beg them to develop the technology and save us from the weather. That would betray an extremely cynical understanding of social engineering and psychopathy. No. Better to think it's all just Mother Nature and Acts of God and Remarkable Coincidences and Bad Luck.
they use the technology to fuck up the weather. they blame that on their big lies (pick one: global warming, global cooling), and then they wait for people to crack under the pressure and demand that they control the weather dammit.
the weather causing "massive life and property losses" references this USAF document:
Weather as a Force Multiplier:
Owning the Weather in 2025
which state in part:
The following notional scenario postulates how weather-modification might become both technically feasible and socially desirable by 2025.
Between now and 2005, technological advances in meteorology and the demand for more precise weather information by global businesses will lead to the successful identification and parameterization of the major variables that affect weather. By 2015, advances in computational capability, modeling techniques, and atmospheric information tracking will produce a highly accurate and reliable weather prediction capability, validated against real-world weather. In the following decade, population densities put pressure on the worldwide availability and cost of food and usable water. Massive life and property losses associated with natural weather disasters become increasingly unacceptable. These pressures prompt governments and/or other organizations who are able to capitalize on the technological advances of the previous 20 years to pursue a highly accurate and reasonably precise weather-modification capability. The increasing urgency to realize the benefits of this capability stimulates laws and treaties, and some unilateral actions, making the risks required to validate and refine it acceptable. By 2025, the world, or parts of it, are able to shape local weather patterns by influencing the factors that affect climate, precipitation, storms and their effects, fog, and near space. These highly accurate and reasonably precise civil applications of weather-modification technology have obvious military implications. This is particularly true for aerospace forces, for while weather may affect all mediums of operation, it operates in ours.
which is SOCIAL ENGINEERING to pressure people to demand that something be done about the deadly weather, and please note the timing and how everything seems to be going according to this plan laid out in 1996.
Off on a tangent
This one is for the nerds like me. It is an essay from 1999 debunking the populist idea of an ‘ice age’– when it wasn’t trendy.
It ties in with the contemporary idea of an expending globe. This debunks the current plate tectonics theory as the cause of earthquakes etc ie plates moving over/under one another.
PS In an other essay he also has a good dig at the big bang and black hole fairy tales.
Oops - that should read expanding globe
haha, well typo aside (good one btw), that is a very interesting link and i am following the trail at the end of the piece about human history. very cool. thanks C.
Found the Jellyfish site at kenny's -
Are u a Med User? :)
Who knows what may come of it
When I was younger , on Anglesey, swimming one day I found myself swimming in a swarm of small white jellyfish but they didn't sting me.
I imagine them to be quite discerning unlike spineless humans.
It's been raining cats and dogs here.
Are u a Med User? :)
i am not unless you count liquor and beer, in which case i am. i embrace my inner freak. what can i say.
aan, sorry to hear that. we have had more than our share here in New England this spring also. on top of the laughable amounts of snow this winter.
Thanks AP – bit of a Freudian slip maybe (grin).
I know it’s a bit off the track of the thread but it was meant for a reason. Most people are led to believe that science is settled on so many fields of exploration when it isn’t. Before the sciences were completely captured by the corporations most scientists couldn’t agree on the price of seaweed.
In effect global warming and ice ages are just 2 stanzas of the same scary song. The weather is the weather and always will be. I’m positive those in the know have their own theories.
BTW the chaos magik spell site was quit a read also (grin)
haha, totally. i'm glad you clicked through and i hope ferris sees it, i thought of him immediately.
C the link you sent is really good. i'm at this book of his now, perusing:
not sure what i think of it all but it sure is worth a look. many thanks.
These.....THINGS need a bullet into their heads like they did to us Humans during the young "turk" revolution, like the Cheka, like the Palestians, like all of Mao`s "advisors", Rwanda, Cyprus B.C., the Reign of Xerxes, the earliest Chinese Scribes recordings and so many, many others. We Humans of ALL races regardless of our various origins are dogs and the white race is a german shepard, some easy confusion there. The Evil Ones are demented WOLVES/JACKALS mostly resembling the white race with some interbreeding to resemble in their off-shoots, other Human races. The so-called Humans who who play with them need to be destroyed too. Everyone here has seen past the Dream-Weaving BS of all the "secret societies".
We already know The Synagogue of Satan is NOT "close" to ANY other race of Humans, including the Europoid white race, the Denisovian Oceanic races or the Mongoloid races except as cross-breds. There is something VERY odd here. Many non-Chos........Geneticists have "disappeared" or "retired"..
I`m sorry for my off-topic rant and for the spacing, A. Peasant Ma`am, not the best server here. Still, we need to to know what Evil seems to prefer for it`s deeds. Thank you James of Winter Patriot I`d already know of THAT particular perfidy. Shit, they`d clone whatever figure they needed come down to the line the Motherless Bastards.
no need to apologize questioning. sorry your comments went to spam. that seems to happen more and more lately, and even when there are no links. the mysteries of booger...
as for the genetics, well yes i find it easier and easier to recognize the various sorts of creatures walking around. there are patterns. i'm sure there are reasons behind the patterns, reasons that geneticists would possibly know about.
There was an awful amount of water allowed to build up in the Mississippi system before the rains and snow melt. Some politicians in the area have called for an investigation of the corps of engineers.
I don't think the Souris river flooding was anticipated. Some of the minute man missiles have already flooded and if the Gavins dam goes most likely all of them will be. More radiation coming down stream and no missiles.
Chucky there is a piece on beforeitsnews concerning how some scientists now feel the earth inner core is a crystal, which expands. (backs expanding earth theory) it seems to me.
To save 'Cairo'='The Vanquisher' or 'The Triumphant'. Interesting.
Thank you A Peasant. As for Expando Earth Theory. I consider the so called biological explainations worthless. Spend a few weeks perusing Mark Witton or Darren Naish and be humbled.
Cliff High is Full of crap on that aspect
AP - sorry it was a wordgame - Medusa being the name for a jellyfish. :)
Phenomenal post AP, very good information. I've never seen those types of radar pictures before. Can anyone see that and not conclude HAARP and possibly other weather modification technology is in play?
I'm heading back to Omaha, my hometown, in a week or so. I'm going to try to head down and take some photos of the river. I'm praying those plants don't start putting out radiation.
These developments in the Midwest have unfolded nicely for the Agenda 21/George Soros crowd. Coincidence?
Oh yeah, almost forgot:
Depressing session of blog serfing A.P. Read about the BLM about to kill off horses in 3 states out west, 3 southern states fighting over the water in a lake and the radio was talking about more corporate control of food. Interesting times are highly overrated.
dubs, from what i have read the ACofE is where lots of mediocre engineers go for cushy government jobs, and they have been bagged in various scandals already.
here's one where they were dumping barrels of toxic and possibly radioactive chemicals into Lake Superior:
here they are party to another old scandal in Florida:
seriously i wish i had more time because they could very easily be a whole other chapter of blogging adventures.
honk man, yes i noted the name of the town, and come to find out it's a small town with a population of about 60% low income black people.
This city was once the stuff of literary references, blues lyrics and steamboat culture.
Today Cairo is a dilapidated intersection of two rivers and three states, marked by poverty and decay. ...The town's staunchest supporters acknowledge it's a place many of its 3,000 residents want to escape, with its weed-choked sidewalks, burned-out buildings and vacant lots.
Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/illinois/article_cab2d57f-d914-5703-8f4d-a69cd6728571.html#ixzz1QqTb9OwC
nothing like a little divide and conquer action going on for good measure. sacrifice the farmland of some white farmers in Missouri to save a miserable town full of black people up north. keep the people at each other's throats. oh do we have a race problem in America or just a problem with the fucking managers?
ferris, i totally missed that (obviously). you know i am waaay behind you on the occult card games. anyway i thought it was a fair question so no worries. i'm surprised more people don't ask.
john friend, safe travels to you sir. i'm sorry that you have to go home to destruction. that's sad. and no i don't understand how people can look at the images and not conclude weather mod. there are so many examples, it's very obviously going on across the entire US and no doubt anywhere on the planet when necessary. thanks for the link.
web serfer (good one, love it!), that's depressing news especially about the horses.
I apologize for not clarifying why I think the Expando Earth Theory is bunk. We have petrified wood remains stretching back more than 300 million years. At no time do we find truly enormous specimens far exceeding modern trees in siize. Several species (Redwoods, Blue Mountain Gums, etc) reach btw 300 to 600 feet in hieght. No remains of ancient redwoods exceed 450 feet. As for the dinosaurs, all of them except the sauropods were actually within the size range of later land mammals during the cenozoic. Btw fifteen to thirty tons. What made sauropods special was their pneumatic skeletons directly connected to their respiratory tract like birds. Also, they bred like rats and had a super-efficient digestive system utilizing gizzard stones to do all the "chewing". Pterosaurs were also huge because of their design. Most of their muscle mass was actually in the WINGS, not the relatively concentrated breastbones of birds or scapulas of bats. All these animals could survive today under our gravity and atmosphere.
questioning, i'm sorry that the last 2 of your comments went to spam, and i just fished them out. this is happening more and more lately, so i am trying to pay more attention and check the spam folder regularly.
funny thing too because this is very interesting information you bring up. these alternate theories like the expando planet are very intriguing, and i will check out these guys Witten and Naish and what they have to say. many thanks.
Hi there questioning and I feel that is the correct way to look at everything.
I don’t see the expanding theory is challenged by your points. I know very little about the study of the terrible lizards – there’s plenty enough of them in the banks (grin).
The use of carbon dating – the back bone of dating biological artefacts - has been seriously undermined. It is based on a steady state production of C14 from high altitude bombardment of Nitrogen atoms with cosmic rays.
As we now know cosmic ray radiation is inherently variable. It depends on the activity of the sun and on the nature of the galactic space medium the solar system is moving through. Both undergo wide variation over a number of timescales.
Geochronology is the science of determining the age of rocks and fossils using either Radiometric dating or Cosmogenic Nuclide Geochronology or both. Both infer a date rather than stating it directly.
When we examine the age of surface rocks especially the rock strata at the bottom of the oceans – using the very methods above - there are very interesting results. The deep ocean trenches are the youngest rocks of all. The following video is an excellent visual depiction and extrapolation of the expanding planet view.
My primary premise is to highlight that we have been lulled into a ‘scientific’ world view that dovetails into an ethos of gradualism – ie that changes in our environment happen very slowly. This is the approved view of the PTB.
We have been very fortunate as a species to be alive in an epoch of relative quiet. If we live on a planet where ‘shit happens’ then the herd will not go screaming to the PTB every time it does. We will dig deeper and learn more. Necessity is the mother of invention after all.
I do not subscribe to the current idea that ‘civilisation’ arose in the Middle East and spread out – that buys too much into a control agenda of the same self-chosen tribe whose ideological predecessors were very active in that region.
Mankind has been around a lot longer than we are led to believe. I posted a wee stab at some interesting new finds recently. If you want to chat over there that will free up AP’s blog from what was a stub argument.
PS Sorry AP for my own plug
meadows contain beauty
wolves howl to the stars
dreams are hidden pastures
lies stumble where truth starts
psychopaths are afraid
a disconnected mind
of itself is just a shade
elitists line their pockets
corporations dance with doom
song birds sing the rivers
the feilds come into bloom
unity in motions
ebb and flow of tide
charge a living heart
refresh and energize
have a poem mrs peasant,and good detective work again...
no need to apologize C. you have my utmost respect and i hope you get mobbed over your place haha! let me know when you have all these issues sorted please. :D
neil, i love your poem and am very honored. and i hope you don't mind but i am putting it on the sidebar because it is perfect. many, many thanks.
Peasant the first job I ever had was cutting survey lines through a snake/alligator infested swamp for the Florida barge canal with machetes. I was 17 years old and the snakes were everywhere. We also dug the railroad and carried creosote pilings in the hot sun for $1.25 an hour.
I know all about the Florida barge canal. It totally screwed the Oklawaha River. At sixteen I used to camp out in that forest with friends during weekends. You could hear Florida panthers screaming in the background. I wasn't very smart but pretty machismo at least I thought at the time. I would not do that again now. We used to swim in that river, it is crystal clear but full of 12 foot gators. I am lucky to be alive.
I have a better one than that for you. They buried dioxin in the middle of Gainesville, Florida. People are raising hell. I used to live there too, maybe that is what is wrong with me! This area is is part of the university itself. Who is insane enough to do this?
I took down all blog links. It is nothing personal. I think they are preparing for a soviet style round up. I am out of the youtube business. I am not going to sit around and try to figure out what is legal and what isn't.
I am sorry chuckyman, I cannot post on your site w/ this phone. I agree with pretty much everything you have said except that expando earth theory requires gravity to have been much lesser in ages past. As I said before, I DO NOT trust any dating method other than the fossil record. Comprehensive fossil formations are the way to go @ the moment. For example, there is a miocene bonebed out west full of dinosaur "zombie" taxon in the form of scattered teeth, vertebrates, etc. BUT no complete skeletons. All the other excauvations within this bonebed show typical North American Cenozoic Miocene fauna and flora. In other words, dating is fracked, but we CAN see the progression of biological life and resultant mineral complexity over Deep Time. You are right that the youngest rocks are in the Trenches. The OLDEST rocks are nearest continental shelves. That is to be expected too. Triassic Pangaea broke up about 200-250 million years ago. Oceanic crustal floor recycles much faster than lighter but much more......
Hello again Questioning. I see you have posted a comment but it is in the spam bin for the moment so I will wait until it’s up on AP’s site before replying – that way others will know what we are on about (grin).
You seem to be very familiar with the topic Questioning. I defer to you on those details but I like you never cease to be questioning the given narrative.
You mention gravity and that is the scientific elephant in the room. No one really knows what it is. Any current description of gravity in terms of the displacement of space-time actually relies on the current model of gravity to describe itself without actually explaining what it is – that’s a bit of a no no really. In short no one knows.
I’ve seen the electric universe theory have a stab at it by describing it as a function of the interaction between matter induced by a background electric field. In essence atoms line up together almost in the same fashion as Iodine atoms do in the solid phase – an induced dipole effect. Don’t ask for a link as I looked and can’t find it.
Who says that the gravitational constant is a constant and not a local value with variation over the epochs? The length of the day seems to have been different in times past? Kurt Johmann’s article kicked off this wee discussion. His article on the big bang is worth a read also – and he doesn’t seem to even be aware of plasma astronomy/electric universe.
Nerdy talk aside it is a pity you had no luck over at my blog. Dublin Mick posted a link to a great book that does what we want – pose questions- especially timelines and archaeological finds. I hold my hands up as I haven’t gotten through it all yet
In essence what I am saying is that the expanding earth theory seems to hold more water (excuse the pun) than the wandering lily pad/tectonic plate theory that has been solidified in the general consciousness. I hold zero confidence in the archaeological story we have been given.
I guess the quest for truth is a journey and not a destination. The magnitude of the BS we have been spoon fed for generations is gaining wider recognition. I feel that pretty soon we are going to see our home planet give us some first hand, front row seats to see how change really occurs.
PS Thanks to Neil for sharing his gift with us.
I wonder if after the flooding and the subsequent devastation has finished whether this whole water management scheme will be taken from the Army Corps of Engineers and privatised.
So that not only the land will be owned by the usual suspects but also the water resource that feeds it.
Perhaps the ACofE is being set up and their complicity in this premeditated disaster will bring about their own demise.
Really! Is there no honour amongst thieves?
So i expect in the near future we will be hearing more about the incompetence (but not criminal complicity) of the Army Corps of Engineers complete with damning evidence.
There is only 3 things the earth can be doing, shrinking, staying the same or expanding. Which makes more sense? Obviously nothing stays the same so that leaves us with 2 choices.
Not only is the earth expanding the entire universe is.
A theory that rings the bell for me is the inner crystal theory of the earth. Something about it just seems common sense. The crystal takes on some molten iron spinning around it and expands.
Why does this makes sense? Because herein we have solved another riddle. There was a crystal on the top of the great pyramid at one time and it has now been proven with very little room for doubt that it was also a power plant among other things. Possibly attune with the crystal core to bring up energy.
Could explain why crystal is so important to the atlantean power rod boys and soothsayers. Why indians wear them around their necks. It could mean a lot of people knew what they were doing and western scientists didn't have the foggiest idea what they were talking about. Yes I am digressing.
Everything expands eventually almost, even my waist line. Crystals continue to grow in caves. We can say that scientifically as there are monsters growing down in Mexico. Our knowledge and understanding expands. Our spirits even grow and get bigger. It seems common sense to me, the earth maybe doing the same. Of course I have no scientific background myself, I go on intuition.
It seems as if .Nietzsche and I have been onto something for a long time.
All sciences are now under the obligation to prepare the ground for the future task of the philosopher, which is to solve the problem of value, to determine the true hierarchy of values. ...Nietzsche
Thank you chuckyman and dublinmick for the good links and the respectful conversation. I apologize to A. Peasant for sidetracking the post`s original message. I am not a troll, go to any of the science sites and you will see lots of posts spin off in rambling directions. For me, I go by the biological evidence in the progressive fossil record. There is nothing there to indicate that "gravity" (and I agree, the standard theory is BS) has variated much if at all over the aeons here on Earth. No one group of lifeforms should`ve been "special" if that was the case. As I already provided, the enormous creatures used as defense of lowered gravity in past times are easily explained by their unique biology, nothing else. They could probably survive in even modern atmospheric conditions (which HAS been highly variable over Deep Time). The hind limbs of "Amphicoelias fragillimus" for example were strong enough to support it`s whole 130 ton weight standing and even temporary walking in modern gravitational conditions.
As for michael cremo and others on forbidden archeology I definately agree that our true history is NOT allowed to be widely known. I suspect that we had time travel and screwed up datings from catastrophic events. I will hazard a guess that humans have been technologically advanced for tens of thousands of years and primarily along the seacoasts which drowned when sealevels rose. Even today more than 80% of the population lives less than 800 miles from the sea. However, some pet peeves include human giants living among dinosaurs. Didnt happen (based on parsimony), the footprint fossils are of theropods crouching on the flat of their feet stalking prey. I`ve seen the fossils with heel and heel and toes together. Modern herons do the same thing stalking land prey to lower their profile.There certainly HAVE been giant humans though. Pleistocene and Holocene fossils the world over demonstrate this. 7 to 9 feet tall. Massive indeed! Again, sorry, trying to cram lots in one post.
hi questioning, no worries. i know you are not a troll and i don't understand why booger puts you into spam even after i keep taking your comments out. sorry about that.
i'm very glad you all are having a good conversation and obviously this is something you've studied. we are on family vacation so i can't contribute much but you are certainly welcome to use the thread, i don't mind at all.
Any time Questioning. It is always interesting to exercise the mind. Who knows the full big picture and any stomping of my feet to defend the veracity of my belief is the essence of dogma – god forbid (grin).
We certainly have been kicking around for a very long time. I think it is safe to say that we probably need to go back to the drawing board and start over. We seem to have collectively done that a few times already.
what an outstanding post!
I have been following this news, only slightly, there is just so much time was has for this stuff.
But, yeah, you laid it out well, it looks as if land confiscation is taking place.
I heard that Soros has been "buying" up property.
The farmland flooding will lead to shortages of food.
I hope everyone has their own garden???
An fyi: that flooding has extended right on up into Canada.
The whole post gives me frightening thoughts of what the scum at the top have planned
Cairo was developing sink holes at last glance. If Soros buys up land it will could well be turned into radioactive nature preserves where farming is disallowed. Then we make the farmer's markets go under with red tape and regulation. This is a good plan huh!
Did they put Brownie in charge of the Mississippi? He did such a good job on Katrina.
This is going to sound naive...but I was wondering if this flooding of the farmlands could result in a bumper crop in 2012 or 2013.
Would the flooding have a beneficial effect, along the lines of the Nile flooding, etc?
Just curious. It entered my mind that, if so, could it offset an inflationary rise in certain food prices that is expected.
Thank you A.P. Enjoy your vacation. Sometimes I think all the wretched Lies make me enjoy Truth even more on this heart-breakingly beautiful world. Anon.....that is not naive @ all, these evil basturds really do micro-think that way, even towards the End Act. Chucky and DublinMick, Thank you and I can be "dogmatic" but only in the sense of what Most Fits The Facts. There are no rabbits in the Cambrian, but there ARE anomalous, seemingly human related materials through-out Deep-Time. So, impossible as it seems, time travel or parallel universe or whatevere travel has been achieved.I am assuming you wiki`d "zombie taxon", so you know what I was talking about with regards to that Miocene Bonebed. Penny....yes, the "ontologically exceptional" species and their Human Cattle-Dogs are never to be trusted.
Agreed folks, watch these guys. I keep hearing this crap about Law here. Who except the psychopathic Species and their sabboths ghoys would think this is possible? Guess they have quite a few tricks up their sleeves. May they be condensed to basic "stuff" from the ninth circle they came from.
hi Pen and everyone. anonymous, i don't know but if the farmers sell their land because they run out of income before the next growing season, and they sell the land to the government or Soros et. al, then any benefits of flooding would accrue to the wrong hands. not to be overly cynical but...
questioning i'm very glad you're here and i'm sorry you get automatically sent to spam. i don't know what gives with that but you must have written something very naughty and truthy at some point.
Ha! Moi? Nothing that really would make an impact I`m sure. Thank you for the compliments. You are far in excess of any productivity I do. The range of work is breath-taking! My kudos. Ditto for the other commentators and a particular kudos to Jennifer Lake. She is the Christiane Maggiore of Polio. May the Evil Ones never silience her as has happened to Maggiore (R.I.P. And God bless you and beautiful Eliza Jane).
WV. Inable. I am inable to listen to the Lies without disgust and dry heaves.
An odd poisoning story here -
might be interesting in light of 'E-Coli' and its amazing morphing qualities.
thank you questioning and ferris.
I just recently began searching for some answers and needless to say, now I have way more questions. regriboSee, I live about 70 miles from Cairo and was screaming at the tv when the levy breach was first announced. My family has farmed in this area for more than a century. The farm land that was destroyed was much more important than the so called community they were supposed to be "saving". Yes it is predominantly black and we all asked our selves if this was a case of a black president trying to save face after the Katrina fiasco. I hate to even think like that. Racism is only a factor because they make it one (whole other subject entirely) but really Cairo, pronounced Kay-Ro here, is a crumbling relic of a once booming river town at the convergence of the Mississippi and Ohio rivers. I would think the little bit of tourism that brings would draw more money to the river front. The factory buildings that are still there look like bombed out husks literally crumbling to the ground. When I heard they were purposely flooding hundreds of thousands of acres of crop land, I really wondered if our fearless leader had ever even been to Cairo Il. Yes he was a Chicago senator but most of those people think the state ends at Springfield. Then my second thought concerned all of us starving next year. We were flooded here at the time, which almost never happens. I had already said the country needed to reduce its ethonal production because that corn would be needed for food. I guess that's a good way to get us to eat less meat when we have to use the grain for our own consumption and not for livestock. It just amazes me that people have no clue were their food comes from. You'd think with all the flap about how bad it is that corn syrup is in everything we eat and that we should use margarine and vegetable oils instead of butter,Ummm, all those boring cornfields no one likes to drive though are what feeds us. So now Cairo still stands, sort of, but who knows how long it will be before those fields can be used again. You'd think that after having the silt and soil deposited from the river would make the soil better. Once upon a time,yes. Both rivers, well all rivers, are so full of pollution while in their banks, we no longer eat anything out of them anymore, but after flooding they pick up so much more trash and chemicals. The soil will have to be tested for contaminants. If under ground wells were used for irrigation, they will have to be emptied and cleaned before they can be used again. In fact just below my house they have been doing that all summer and again we live more than 50 miles from either river. All of Southern Illinois was under water this spring and other than Cairo, we never got any national attention. From what I remember the land on the Missouri side of Cairo was not in much danger until they blew the levy.In early 2008 my husband and I joined a tea party when we still lived in W. Va. Anyone can say what they may about the tea party, but our biggest reason was because we knew we couldn't trust our government and we weren't sure who we could. We just wanted some information. Now we're back here in Illinois after the economy crashed out there. Things are actually not much worse here than they have been for more than a decade but that too is another story. So. Il. is coal country. I still get emails and I haven't kept up with them like I should and I actually deleted stuff on agenda 21 thinking it was something affecting them locally. I just now found out it's our worst nightmare as americans and then found this post shortly after. Like in the same afternoon. Now I have bells and whistles and flashing lights to the point of not being able to think of anything else. So yesterday I opened a blog at wordpress mostly to be able to comment and question on other peoples posts. There are many links included here to get me started and I'm so anxious to see where it all goes. I feel like I've entered the twilight zone.
welcome kellygirl, thanks for your comment. it is always depressing and overwhelming when we fall into the rabbit hole and all of a sudden there's all this information and it makes the world spin. so you are doing the right thing, you just keep reading and clicking the links and doing the research. i looked up Cairo and saw the pics, i saw what they were "saving" and the sacrifice they decided to make, on your behalf and others, to save Cairo. it's crazy. the trouble is most people are not looking up Cairo, they are just taking anyone's word for it if they are even paying attention at all, which they probably aren't. so again, you're doing the right thing simply by doing the research. thinking is resisting. there's a lot of information out there.
you certainly can not trust your government. the tea party is a subject for another day.
agenda 21 is real and it's a real problem. the level of corruption is mind-staggering. it is much, much worse than most people can begin to imagine.
the control of land to control the food supply sounds like an issue close to you. we cover lots of different things here, but certainly the people who commented on this thread, many of them have excellent blogs and i wish you good luck in your reading, and please let me know if there's anything you need a pointer to or whatever. jump in the comments anytime. we float around from topic to topic depending on what is going on, and also on what is *not* being discussed.
there is a lot of excellent work being done in the blogs. welcome.
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