UPDATED with another video. This time we learn that Sarkozy *really* thinks Netanyahu is a liar and Obama is sick of dealing with him every day. Via the Truthseeker. We suppose this is something to keep in mind when we hear how much our leaders support our best friends in Israel, and how we should all support our best friends in Israel.
Switters left two very interesting videos in the comments to the last post. Focus on the news people.
The social engineers are everywhere: on teevee, facebook, at protests, at meetings, in think tanks, on the web. They are in the blogosphere, in comments and with their own blogs. They contribute. They are always working to shape opinion. They use techniques such as the Delphi Technique and the Alinsky Method. These techniques have been perfected over many years.
"Few Jewish radicals have had as much influence over American politics as Saul Alinsky (1909-1972). Born to Russian Jewish immigrants, he graduated from the University of Chicago and then went on to become a community organizer, being one of the first to bring radical politics to Chicago’s Black ghettos. Hilary Clinton wrote her senior thesis (PDF) at Wellesley College on Alinsky and his tactics, and he was a major influence on President Obama, who was trained as a community organizer in Chicago."
Some tactics of the Alinsky Method:
- Slowly penetrate, infiltrate existing institutions like churches, unions, political parties, websites, blogs. Subtly gain influence within these organizations and then introduce change from that platform.
- Fully encourage people in their discontents and divisions.
- Train locals in the techniques and have them set the agendas for their local organized groups.
- Use loaded questions to manipulate and exploit people to the pre-set agenda. Fan their tensions as much as possible.
- The organizer must draw an attack onto himself which then cements his credibility with the people.
“The organizer is in a true sense reaching for the highest level for which man can reach --
to create, to be a ‘great creator,’ to play God.”
- The enemy of the people must be identified personally.
- The enemy must be completely polarized, 100% negative, the cause one of total defeat or total victory.
- The ends justify the means.
- The radical targets the middle class because it is the largest, and blends in, speaks their language, dresses in their manner, uses their customs, invokes their moral principles.
- The organizer must be unpredictable and willing to draw everyone into chaos and confusion for the sake of these moral principles.
- Large and loud staged protests project power, even if the movement is small.
“If your organization is small in numbers,
conceal the members in the dark
but raise a din and clamor that will make the listener believe
that your organization numbers many more than it does.”
- Get people to act before thinking.
- React with shock and horror when the enemy commits any error, misspeaks, etc.
- Goad the enemy mercilessly, laugh at the enemy, deride the enemy. Use ridicule.
- Organizers should always have more than one "fight in the bank," a stockpile of crusades that they can switch between to keep momentum going.
- Short jail incidents strengthen the movement.
“Charming and self-absorbed, Alinsky would entertain friends with stories -- some true, many embellished -- from his mob days [he was a friend of Al Capone - ed.] for decades afterward. He was profane, outspoken, and narcissistic, always the center of attention despite his tweedy, academic look and thick, horn-rimmed glasses.”
A charming, self-absorbed, narcissistic, embellishing, atheistic, mob-connected, master manipulator, STUDIED AND REVERED by people currently running this country, and the world.
ISN'T THAT GREAT?
Consider all the protests of the past year. Hopefully you were reading Aangirfan instead of watching Wolf Blitzer. Otherwise you might think that was all really real. But even in the blogosphere, consider some of the things that happen. It is the perfect environment, in many respects, to disrupt and neutralize effective voices.
These agents have been trained in methods which were developed for the Department of Defense, and perfected over decades, for purposes of psychological warfare. The organizer blends into the target group, becomes outspoken -- the most passionate for the cause, and then draws an attack onto himself to cement his credibility.
The guy in the center, with colorful and stylish scarf... he looks *extra* angry, *extra* committed.
A photo of Tunisia, at the beginning of the Arab Spring....? Or someplace else.
Strange that only the people in the foreground are yelling.
Lucky that the photographer happened to be in just the right place to capture this moment.
Strange that only the people in the foreground are yelling.
Lucky that the photographer happened to be in just the right place to capture this moment.
See aferrismoon: the slumber of the fleeced.
Image source: http://anatheimp.blogspot.com/2011/02/arab-winter.html
Another one. Caption reads:
"Masked plainclothes police officers take away an alleged rioter on a motorbike during clashes in Tunis. (AP/Chokri Mahjoub)"
That masked officer is really holding that knife very securely with his fingertips? Because he is very concerned that the dramatic young man with the very long arms will grab it out of his hand? While those other couple of white guys look on? And there are no crowds around in the rioting city?
High School Drama Club?
The Delphi Technique technique was developed at the RAND Corporation in the 1950s for the US.Department of Defense.
The Delphi Technique was originally conceived as a way to obtain the opinion of experts without necessarily bringing them together face to face. In Educating for the New World Order by Bev Eakman, the reader finds reference upon reference for the need to preserve the illusion that there is "Lay, or community, participation in the decision making process), while in fact lay citizens are being squeezed out."Click through to read how to disrupt the technique. Also see The Delphi Technique: Let's Stop Being Manipulated!
A specialized use of this technique was developed for teachers, the "Alinsky Method" (ibid., p. 123). The setting or group is, however, immaterial the point is that people in groups tend to share a certain knowledge base and display certain identifiable characteristics (known as group dynamics). This allows for a special application of a basic technique. The "change agent" or "facilitator" goes through the motions of acting as an organizer, getting each person in the target group to elicit expression of their concerns about a program, project, or policy in question. The facilitator listens attentively, forms "task forces," "urges everyone to make lists," and so on. While she is doing this, the facilitator learns something about each member of the target group. He/she identifies the "leaders," the "loud mouths," as well as those who frequently turn sides during the argument the "weak or noncommittal."
Suddenly, the amiable facilitator becomes "devil's advocate." He/she dons his professional agitator hat. Using the "divide and conquer" technique, he/she manipulates one group opinion against the other. This is accomplished by manipulating those who are out of step to appear "ridiculous, unknowledgeable, inarticulate, or dogmatic." He/she wants certain members of the group to become angry, thereby forcing tensions to accelerate. The facilitator is well trained in psychological manipulation. S/He is able to predict the reactions of each group member. Individuals in opposition to the policy or program will be shut out of the group.
The method works. It is very effective with parents, teachers, school children, and any community group. The "targets" rarely, if ever, know that they are being manipulated. If they do suspect this is happening, they do not know how to end the process. The desired result is for group polarization, and for the facilitator to become accepted as a member of the group and group process. He/she will then throw the desired idea on the table and ask for opinions during discussion. Very soon his/her associates from the divided group begin to adopt the idea as if it were their own, and pressure the entire group to accept the proposition.
This technique is a very unethical method of achieving consensus on a controversial topic in group settings. It requires well trained professionals who deliberately escalate tension among group members, pitting one faction against the other, so as to make one viewpoint appear ridiculous so the other becomes "sensible" whether such is warranted or not.
1. Don't lose your temper.
2. Stay focused.
3. Be persistent.
4. Work with partners.
"The Delphi Method discourages and attempts to eliminate any bias in the solution of a problem." ~ Project Management Communications Bible
Bias meaning: any ideas not pre-approved.
hey there a pea,
was scanning thru kenny's sideshow and saw your post.. i'd researched the delphi method yrs ago, but was ignorant as to alinsky..
thx so much for the post...
hope you're well...
hey kikz, good to see you. i did not know about Alinsky either until i started poking around about Delphi. the scary thing is that a lot of it is really effective, and techniques i use a lot myself in blogging, things that i just consider common sense. so it's kind of creepy in a way, to see clean hits get twisted into sucker punches, and to know that it destroys peoples' ability to trust. that is one of the most sinister aspects of it to me.
i should clarify that i use derision a lot, and sarcasm, in blogging, because i find it effective. i think people probably know that about me. yeah.
Very well laid out AP. The history from Al Capone to Rand Corp is telling and the unpacking of the protest picture is beautiful.
The link to Clinton and Obama is well made. It gives an entirely different view to Obama's 'community' work.
We swim in a sea of this illusion created for us out of our own fears. and this post is a great insight into it. Thanks
Playin' those mindgames forever.
Believe your site is where I first heard the phrase
"mind fuck" - thanks - it's so true.
If the "bees" could just get outta the "hive"......
If people could just be as difficult to herd as cats.....
So many websites emphasize economic/money
skills of TPTB.
It's about controlling us - and that's only a part.
AP thanks for all your efforts
hi Dave, hi James. it sure does go way back, these games.
"if people could just be as difficult to herd as cats..."
that is exactly the thing Dave. people make it so easy for the social engineers. they don't even bother to resist. they don't think the bad things will ever happen, and in fact the can gets kicked down the road an awful lot. which, again, is social engineering and the Tavistock stress / relief cycle.
as for financial control, i thought this was really good:
again i think the issue is one of timing. a lot of the social engineering seems like an effort to control the demolition, to make sure that certain things happen in certain orders so that the criminals can get away in the confusion.
we can only hope someone will manage to stuff a banana in the tailpipe, somehow...
btw does anyone else think that picture might be a fake background with a few real actors standing in front? the people in the back look like they are listening to someone speak. their expressions are completely disconnected from the action in the foreground.
Good stuff as always AP.
Fake background? maybe but it would be easy enough to plant a dozen zealots into any crowd. The guys at the back (real crowd) look positively bored, looking in all directions etc. Clearly staged, as was the Arab Spring, but the masses, and 'intelligentsia', still bought it.
'Alinsky Method' - he gets immortalised for coming up with that? Why not just call it the Jewish Method - isn't that how they've always operated; long before Alinsky?
@James, that was an interesting comment you made over at Noors re gang culture. My response (short version) - Freemasonry for the underclass?
"@James, that was an interesting comment you made over at Noors re gang culture"
I did? I don't remember, freethinker (not unusual!). I have been reading over there a bit lately. It could have been the old mpd kicking in again or it could have been someone else entirely, too. :)
hah good one freethinker :D
wow AP do you think that someone is "pushing the envelope"
as for the protestor, the air time was obviously given to her to sully the occupy movement and to attack the concepts of free speech
Ie: some "free" speech is good and some "free" speech is bad
which is really strange.
because the conclusion is clearly that there is no such thing as free speech
Whatever happened to
I may not agree with what you say, but I defend your right to say it
Or something along that line
I think it was possibly voltaire?
The colourful scarf guy?
Recall the stunt in Egypt, with the so called Mubarek strong men riding out into the crowd on camels with their very colourful clothing
Nothing get's attention like "colourful" people in a sea of grey and beige
I like how the scarf guy has his hand on the other persons shoulder
That is solidarity!
Also, got to do some more reading on these other persons of interest you have in this post
I hope my comment meets your approval ;)
Hey pez, this is a classic post. Much to let sink in and watch for.
The Capone Alinsky Clinton Obama linear connection is a good example of how gangsterism has become our form of government.
@James (with apologies to AP), it was this post http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.com/2011/11/anti-empire-report-destruction-of.html
I see now that it was another James.
good to see you are still around and slugging it out in the trenches!
hi Pen, of course your comments always meet my approval. :D
as for the protestor, the air time was obviously given to her to sully the occupy movement and to attack the concepts of free speech
very much agree. it was really an opportunity to throw the woman under the bus and make her out to be completely crazy and hateful. we don't need no stinking research.
i forgot about the camels. this pic just seems really staged to me. i feel that there is a backdrop behind these guys and the person with the black hair on the right side. is everything behind them a picture?
hey Kenny, i'm glad it is helpful. i almost didn't post it to be honest. i put the whole thing together and was sort of, meh.
RICK! long time no see. yes i'm still here. for those who don't know, probably everyone, Rick was the first person to follow my blog, like, ever. and then i took his After Armageddon blog over, which is at my wordpress site under "the brush pile" because it's so old now. ancient history.
THis on NOv 3:
They're usually in some kind of shock [ u know the one when they check out if you're looking how shocked they are] about continued anti-semitism in Europe, like we still live in Naze germany or sum'ting.
"Lucky that the photographer happened to be in just the right place to capture this moment."
'Framing' [ as with this incident]. There's no photo in the media that hasn't been approved by the editor.
This allows the 'story' to start from which will follow 'Layering' which is the repeated use of the story within other contexts [
'Is antisemitism on the rise in Europe'
[Sarkozy has a mother half-Jewish but he's raised a Catholic, so we'll see how the story morphs around that]
Then there will be a humorous gaffes article , and on and on until the 'story' is fixed rather like the foundations of a building [ which u would need to put explosives at all the critical points to demolish]
Nevertheless Sarkozy wouldn't call him a liar if he didn't have an example or too, perhaps he'd be kind enough to enlighten us what the lie the PM of Israel told the Pres. of FRance.
ta for link
Thanks for the info on the lying slimeball Alinsky.
Do you read Lasha Darkmoon's website?
She has just posted three articles there which have much to recommend them.
America Vanquished, Part 1: America as an Israeli Colony, by Dr Lasha Darkmoon
America Vanquished, Part 2: America under Jewish Rule, by Dr Lasha Darkmoon
DARKMOON UPON AMERICA, BY ISRAEL SHAMIR: Response, Pictures and Captions by Lasha Darkmoon
Don't like saying it, but I will - I think we're screwed.
We've fallen for every jew Big Lie they have ever dangled in front of our gullible noses. I can't see anything substantial to indicate that is changing.
They'll get their third world war up and running, all the sheep will dutifully line up for slaughter (again) and the jews will rake in the shekels like they always have.
I do not believe in the ludicrous Hollywood jew BS of "the cavalry coming over the hill to the rescue." I do not believe the hundreds of millions of deeply deluded Western world telezombies will ever wake up, toss their TV sets out and start looking for Truth and Facts.
A bleak outlook, but realistic, I think.
indeed bibi must be supremely obnoxious to get these two other obnoxious twirps sniping to each other. imagine my shock. i'd rather we not learn what bibi lied about, since it is more useful to have him revealed as a general liar, not to be trusted on anything, at this juncture. even among the crazy whack jobs, he's in a category of his own. best that people begin to appreciate that. we definitely should not start any wars based on his say so, for instance.
anonymous, i will read the links thanks. i saw the first one a week or so ago. i agree there is no cavalry coming over the hill, but that does not mean we're screwed.
'Apoplectic' seems to be the right word to describe the response of the news people in the studio, breathlessly trying to please their bosses. I love the way the lady who interviewed McAllister keeps contradicting them, she seems to genuinely be defending her in a way. Poor 'P.J.' didn't come out looking too good.
This is Marc Glenn's take on the Sarkozy thing:
we can safely assume that Obama has just been “Lewinskyed”, in the “former” Mossad asset Sarkozy luring him into a situation where he blabs something destined to raise the collective ire of the Chosenites and to give them something to scream in his face about until he gets the boots marching against Iran.
Not only does the photo you describe have a "staged" feel to it, but it looks to me like the face of the guy in the scarf was photoshopped onto the body. I don't know what the purpose of that would be, considering the others look real, unless somebody was making fun of someone or wanted to make it look like that guy was there when he wasn't. But the face looks slightly too big for the body, there's no chin-shadow on the scarf and the guy would have to have a neck like a giraffe if you allow for what's concealed inside the scarf. His shoulders are equal with those of the guy beside him, but his forehead is a good 4 inches higher. There's just something about it that looks weird.
The step-by-step guide to community organizing sounds spookily like the west's favourite liberal son in Russia, Boris Nemtsov. Constantly pushing the boundaries of legal demonstration so as to get arrested - which is lovingly covered in the western press - and regularly exaggerating the strength of the liberal "movement". Breaks down in brave despair whenever he gets aced out in elections, and portrays it as the death of democracy, and so on.
Hey AP - Glad you found the videos worth noting. I found the Conan one especially telling.
I signed the petition for McAllister...and the comments there are encouraging. The discussion in the comments regarding the end of the news segment, where they say "Why do we even give her airtime?" is enlightening, as is the dialogue regarding the second woman interviewed.
So often the comments to an article compliment the article very well.
ugh, unlucky me i just blew away my own comment. feh, long day.
so what i was saying is that blammo, that makes sense. considering the sort of things kept secret over decades, things like politicians screwing little children etc., it is not plausible that they could not keep this secret if they wanted too. therefore it must have been set out for a purpose. knowing who runs the show, we can deduce what kind of purpose that would be.
Mark, yes there are lots of things wrong with that pic, with scarf-man and also with the person to his right, with black hair facing scarf-man, and which hands are his / hers? seems totally off. those two also have the only "big" hair in the crowd. they look like a couple of moosad out of no one messes with the zohar.
i hope nobs weighs in because he knows all this photoshop stuff cold.
swits, thanks again for the great links. i will check out those comments tomorrow.
ha, sorry i guess it's a zohaN not a zohaR. which is important /eyeroll/...
Sorry, I've been on the road and not on the net. As for this piece, I liked it. The Alinsky Method, the Delphi Method - very good. It's nice when something is tied up, given a name, and laid out so clearly.
As for that photo, I can't see anything wrong with it. Mind you, it is very small. But with photoshopping it's always worth asking the question, 'Why bother?' If that was the photo you were after why not just stage it for real? All you need is a dozen blokes to turn up and act angry.
Not forgetting of course that this came in a discussion of the Alinsky method. Think about it: If you can't arrange a dozen blokes to attend a rally then you're bloody hopeless and you've really no business using the Alinsky method. A photo ain't going to save you.
An absolutely fascinating post!
Interesting how Clinton and Obama (Dems) STUDIED AND REVERED Alinsky and these leftists, while guys like Wolfowitz and Perle (neocons and generally Republican) STUDIED AND REVERED guys like Leo Strauss and Milton Friedman. These may be some of the most pernicious political philosophers one could STUDY AND REVERE! Funny thing, all three are Jews. But of course, that's doesn't matter, totally irrelevant fact, nothing to see here...it's anti-Semitic anyways....
You know AP, I couldn't help but notice the overtones in this post relating to the little dialogue nobody and I had a while back, in addition to some of the things I've been doing. Specifically, the bullet relating to an "organizer" drawing an attack onto himself to cement his credibility and the bullet relating to a "large and loud staged protest, even if the movement is small" stood out to me. Of course I'm not implying anything here, just hoping for a clarification. :)
One last thing, and this is really going to piss nobody off if he's reading this, it seems almost all are in agreement here that the "Arab Spring" was completely manufactured in the media. Also, it appears as if some of these "revolutions" were literally staged for a Hollywood-style script. Photos, videos, interviews, ect. - many of it completely staged and put on teevee for the masses to eat up. Maybe the same thing going on with these Occupy Wall Street movements, too?
Now, why is it so hard for some people to entertain the idea that what we supposedly saw on live TV on 9/11 was completely staged, just like so many of these other events? We know they've had the technology to alter live video feeds for years now.
It seems rather obvious that some of these "revolutions" are completely staged and scripted (although there are many genuine people involved, the media manipulates perception), just like other "game changing" events throughout history.
And please folks, I'm not trying to start shit with anyone, just consider what I'm saying.
i'm sure you're right that they need to have their goons show up, and i'm sure they do. i don't see it as either / or but rather also / and. as in yes they will send their goons and yes they will also stage pics that are useful in certain applications. thus the pics are composed just so.
btw nobs i think if you google tunisia images you can see a larger version and i think it is a lot more obvious that there's something wrong with the pic.
thought this might interest you
john, i don't think any clarification is needed. it's a post on the alinsky and delphi methods and how they work.
the exchange with you and nobody was inconclusive. everyone has his or her own opinion and i do not think anyone is obligated to make a public declaration.
One last thing, and this is really going to piss nobody off if he's reading this...
funnily enough, by coincidence (moderation was on), nobs had just commented in front of you, about 20 minutes, as you can see, so i'm sure he will see your comment.
meanwhile, we are not turning this thread over to a 911 discussion, or a OWS discussion. i pass on some topics at this blog, and those would be two of them.
aha, very interesting Pen!
from a RIA Novosti:
"When there's such a blatant disregard for the rule of law, it raises questions as to our ability to count on them when it comes to abiding by trade agreements and obligations under the WTO," the WSJ quoted Wicker as saying. "If Russia's going to continue to be scofflaw, to me it raises questions as to whether they belong in the WTO."
keep them outta the WTO i guess...
boy it was handy that Serge died under those circumstances.
blatant disregard for the rule of law!
I roll my eyes!
Keeping them out of WTO could be one possibility
'boy it was handy that Serge died under those circumstances.'
was it ever!
"Slowly penetrate, infiltrate existing institutions like churches, unions, political parties, websites, blogs. Subtly gain influence within these organizations and then introduce change from that platform."
YES, that is what is going on!
(Many thanks for the mention)
my pleasure Aan.
John wants to talk about no-planes again? And he's doing it in a more roundabout and apologetic fashion than previously?
Why would that warrant a comment from me? It speaks for itself I reckon.
Hey Campo,...Brilliant Post, thoroughly good reading, in the Aan link I saw a pick of obongo next to a sign that read " Ye Shill List', or did I? Haaargh!
As for the photos used for polemical statements: As anyone that has any familiarity with my schlumpf knows; I was a photojournalist for many years, I was a member of the "Bangkok Obliterati" in the 80's and early 90's and the last war-correspondent accredited with the Australian Regular Army prior to the pony ride of East Timor; we of the ""concerned photographers" club, used a technique known as the "New York Style", (nabbed by the yanks!) it was not so much about the subject choice as the framing.
Using a Fine Cut metal File, we would gouge away at the negative carrier to permit the outer edges of the film's frame to be exposed and printed on the photo-paper. What this did was show the viewer, that what "I" saw, "You" see: NO cropping or editing for slimey political affectation! Truth in imaging! Tadaa!
Of course this style was soon shunned into oblivion and replaced with a Photoshop "Mask" - what's the point? Wankers!
Colour publications - we used to print an affirmation copy of Colour Negs for archive (self-defence), if you know what you are doing it is EASY to print B&W off a Colour Neg!
Nah, I wasn't trying to talk about no-planes again. Maybe you want to go back and re-read my comment? I was just mentioning the fact that it's OK to talk about fake, fraudulent, Hollywood-style psyops -- like the "Arab Spring" and (maybe?) Occupy Wall St. -- but not 9/11, a subject not discussed here. And that's cool. There's plenty of other places to do that.
Anyways, I'd just like to post this here for AP and others to consider. This is the type of bullshit I'm going up against at this Occupy San Diego movement.
From the Occupy San Diego Facebook page (I deleted the name of this individual posting this quote)
"Here we are desperately concerned with the vast mass of our people who, thwarted through lack of interest or opportunity, or both, do not participate in the endless responsibilities of citizenship and are resigned to lives determined by others. To lose your "identity" as a citizen of democracy is but a step from losing your identity as a person. People react to this frustration by not acting at all. The separation of the people from the routine daily functions of citizenship is heartbreak in a democracy.
It is a grave situation when a people resign their citizenship or when a resident of a great city, though he may desire to take a hand, lacks the means to participate. That citizen sinks further into apathy, anonymity, and depersonalization. The result is that he comes to depend on public authority and a state of civic-sclerosis sets in.
From time to time there have been external enemies at our gates; there has always been the enemy within, the hidden and malignant inertia that foreshadows more certain destruction to our life and future than any nuclear warhead. There can be no darker or more devastating tragedy than the death of man's faith in himself and in his power to direct his future.
I salute the present generation. Hang on to one of your most precious parts of youth, laughter don't lose it as many of you seem to have done, you need it. Together we may find some of what we're looking for laughter, beauty, love, and the chance to create."
A decent quote, I thought. BUT- no talk of the criminal Rothschild-owned and operated Federal Reserve Bank, no talk of real historical facts, no talk of the necessity at this point to start arresting and executing those in the government guilty of treason and high crimes against the state. More bullshit from the Jews, always trying to co-opt every single movement that seeks to challenge the status quo. And I'm not even sure this movement (OWS) was meant to challenge the status quo. So many of these people down there and posting on Facebook are just completely clueless guys, I'm sorry to say....
I was just mentioning the fact that it's OK to talk about fake, fraudulent, Hollywood-style psyops -- like the "Arab Spring" and (maybe?) Occupy Wall St. -- but not 9/11, a subject not discussed here. And that's cool. There's plenty of other places to do that.
people who read my blog understand the WHOs and WHYs of 911, it is an accepted background fact here that it was a false flag conducted by some combination of israelis and americans, who are mostly identified.
HOW they did murder all those people? i don't know. and i don't need to know. or put it this way, i don't need to waste my time trying to figure it out when i could be focusing on what these murderers are up to next.
Hey Campo,..Did my earlier comment go to spam?
"YES, that is what is going on!"
Are you kidding, Aang? This from a nebulous, one-line commenting blogger who censors comments? Comments from the person whom their post was directed at? Comments which challenge their objectivity?
I'd say that's either an ego run amok, or the pot calling the kettle 'black.'
hey V, sorry about that. i thought i had them all up this morning before i went to work, but i was rushing and didn't check. then it had to wait all day, so sorry!
i did not know you were a photojournalist. that's very cool.
some years back i went to a journalism conference and was with actual journalists, and it became clear to me that a great deal of the evil being done is done by the editors and assorted wankers whose job it is to keep the well-heeled happy, because in fact, a lot of the journalists were doing the work. it just never made it to the light of day. someday maybe the vaults will be opened wouldn't that be nice.
blammo, please consider that you might be missing some information.
With respect Peasant, I do. Aang is one of the most prolific and fascinating bloggers in the 'sphere and the last thing I'd want to do is discourage Aang from posting. However, anyone who behaves as though they have an inside line on ultimate truths is being disingenuous. I am not questioning Aang's credibility per se, I am questioning Aang's objectivity. Aang exhibits a clear bias. When pressed for proof to support Aang's position, Aang resorted to classical pandering and misinformation, directed it at me personally, then refused to publish my rebuttal in the comment section. What is one to make of that?
I am not personally married to the position I took on the issue, and I allow room to be convinced that I am wrong. This does not seem to be the case with Aang. There is *plenty* of information which contradicts the narrative Aang has adopted unquestioningly. I am interested in the truth. I don't presume it's Aang's job to personally agree with or enlighten me, but since Aang named me personally in a post supposedly proving me wrong, the least I expect is the courtesy of being allowed to respond. That Aang chose not to permit this, I think, speaks volumes about Aang's motives. Aang draws suspicion to them self with Aang's various viewpoints and strategic silence, and seems to do so deliberately.
Personally, I think Aang enjoys the ambiguity, as evidenced by Aang's insistence that s/he is a 'collective.' To enjoy deliberately stirring up controversy and suspicion makes you, among other things, someone who is not to be taken seriously. Someone who views truth as a game or entertainment form. I think the British tabloid-style journalism underscores that last point. With all this talk of Delphi and Alinsky, I think this bears keeping in mind.
Did you get a chance to read the Lasha Darkmoon articles?
Have you heard of Anthony Lawson?
He has a YouTube channel where he has posted a number of very good videos exposing apartheid Israel for what it is, and other important issues.
"Holocaust, Hate Speech and Were The Germans So Stupid," is a very good one, but of course the lousy Google censors wiped it out months ago. It was way too good and generating 10s of thousands of hits in a short time, therefore it had to go. So much for free speech and that laughable motto they had at Google some time ago "Do No Evil." (LOL)
Anyway, that video is now available at other sites. It is worth the time to view, if you have not yet seen it.
Another of Mr Lawson's professionally produced videos is "9/11: The Absurdity of the No-Planes-in-New York Theory" at this link:
And here is a comment left at that video, which Mr Lawson has highlighted:
"MARIAUTUBE made a great comment on August 2nd.
Since I'm a New Yorker I can absolutely assure every single IDIOT that says there were no planes that day; that there were freaking planes!! Are you freaking insane!!?? The 1st plane flew almost right over me!! There were thousands of people if not hundreds of thousands, who saw the freaking planes and not just saw them from NYC but from Brooklyn, New Jersey and Queens. OMG, I just don't understand how these morons make these claims when they weren't even here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you, Maria."
Good on you Maria. I guess she just doesn't understand, yet, who those morons are working for.
I won't be jumping in again with 911 info, but felt this may be of use to some people.
I understand the angle the no-planes promoters are working, AP. Kind of a sweet irony you posted the Alinsky info. LOL.
Good on you, and keep it up.
understand though, that i don't know anything about this exchange you had with Aan. i don't read comment threads usually. i know lots of things happen in comments but i'm only really on top of my own threads, because these are my responsibility. it's very confusing when people drag issues from other comment threads and it can lead to more misunderstandings since people will not know the background.
hello anon, thank you for this info. i smile over my coffee! (btw you should think of adopting a pen name or even some initials please so that you don't have to be completely anonymous.)
i have heard of Lawson of course, and i will watch the video about no planes.
and yes i did read the Darkmoon articles and found them excellent. a very good overview, lots of brush strokes, very bravely stated. i cling to my faith-based belief that it will not all turn to shit for us, but for them, because evil lacks creativity and can only destroy, and will ultimately destroy itself. such is the spite of the evil. it's very important not to get overwhelmed and depressed with the situation, even though i know we all struggle with that from time to time. but of course they love it when people are feeling down and afraid - it makes their jobs even easier. so, you know, you march right up to that line of how bad it is, and you take a good look, and you say, fuck you evil people. this is not your planet to destroy.
just watched it anon. very good. i actually watched those september clues videos way back in 2008. the impression it made on me was of proving media complicity. i certainly will not watch it again but i see that in the Lawson comments the people who RELENTLESSLY want to turn the discuss over to science and technology -- away from common sense -- and make the whole thing the realm of experts, and put everyone else on the back foot. and this is how the 911 movement was splintered into a thousand million pieces. just reading the first page of comments there at the video, honest to God, Lawson must have the patience of Job to deal with that shit.
Yes AP, Mr Lawson is a good and decent man.
Here is a link to his other video I mentioned earlier:
If you have the time to watch it you will understand why the Kosher Thought Police at YouTube banned it.
I did not see September Clues. The only video I recommend in that area is Missing Links. It is definitive.
I'll only mention this because it is related to AP's post about cognitive infiltration. Lawson's videos are excellent, but as I recall, his position on 9/11 is that without a 'smoking gun' we cannot say that Israel did it, or was involved, and that said smoking gun does not exist. I can imagine his motives for this are not necessarily sinister, but I cannot say for certain either way. There are lines people are mentally unprepared to cross for whatever reason.
Hey Apee (grin),...Blammo, for some time during a battle with jootube I was in regular correspondence with Mr. Lawson; I am familiar with his work and have supported it personally, to the point where I had a Post zapped by jootube and received a formal "Breach" warning for posting a vid in support of Mr. Lawson's work which jootube considered "anti-semitic". That should say it all...
Mr. Lawson is pedantic about his research and his content IMHO is always spot on. I have never seen him back away from the issue of yiddish involvement in 911, nor can I understand why you would suggest that his conduct regarding the yiddish issue might be dubious - please provide links with a case to point. I may have missed something in the early development of his work.
P.S. In a previous comment a line should have read: "What this did was show the viewer, that WHICH "I" saw, "You" see" Delete/oblique 'what' for 'which', ta.
I reckon if you want to discuss getting blitzed from somone else's comments do what I did. Lay it out on the front page, go through it, and round it up with whatever conclusion the censorship demonstrates. Mine looked like this.
Having read Aang's piece mentioning you Blammo, I'm not sure what your conclusion would add up to. You'd be planting your flag on a low hill not worth conquering I reckon.
Veritas, it was a dispute which took place in the comment section of one of his videos. It will take some digging to find it. I found it an odd position for him to take, and I could have misinterpreted the discussion and therefore just be talking out of my ass. Frankly I just assumed at the time it was the pedantic nature of his research which led him to say there was no conclusive evidence proving that it was a Mossad op. I will endeavor to find it.
learnt something new today just to the degree to make me dangerous... thanks!
The further study links are terrific.
There is so much intellectual capital behind social engineering that it is amazing some have managed to escaped it!
Or have we?
Is it not also part of social engineering, perception management, and manufacturing consent, to keep the most recalcitrant antagonists busy in studying the social engineers while the "history's actors" themselves soldier on with their social engineering inventing new realities....
I haven't found an antidote to that yet. Is there one?
hullo Z! fancy seeing you here. of course you are right that the social engineers prefer we do anything but pay attention to their next exploits. of course we are always also in the position. as humans, of trying to help each other, so we have to pause and make sure everyone is on the same page from time to time, and then of course everyone is *not* on the same page...
i don't know the answer either. but, i think this delphi technique and alinsky method are definitely in play all over the place right now, so it is worth pausing to identify them.
how was it that the percentages of people sorted out? the social engineers have it all figured out how many people they really need to worry about, and it was a small percentage, and you told me, but i can't recall the details.
apologies readers, i have decided to close this comment thread.
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