Ambassador Grossman emphasized that, "US was not walking away from the region". He said that US would stand by Pakistan and will also work with the armed forces to defeat the terrorist forces. Besides making the usual statements about US desiring a peaceful, stable and prosperous Pakistan, the visiting ambassador made an interesting observation when he remarked, "US-Pakistan relationship must be based on mutual interest, challenge is to find that mutual interest". The paucity of time did not allow for asking the ambassador that clearly someone must have moved the goal posts in the recent weeks otherwise everyone had been led to believe that the two governments had agreed on mutual-interests a long time back. Ten years down the road, fighting a full-scale war against a commonly identified enemy, billions being poured in by US and still we face the challenge of discovering our mutual interests? Interesting reality check, indeed.Ooh, ouch. Read it all.
pic from: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7439
We are on the same page as Hamid Gul.
March 7, 2011: Hamid Gul: US fighting undeclared war against Pakistan through Special Mission Forces
ISLAMABAD, (SANA): Former Director General Inter-Services-Intelligence Lt. Gen. (retd) Hameed Gull has said that the killer of two Pakistanis, a US citizen Raymond Davis punishment would be based on the principles of justice, adding that if America would not accepted it, then there is fear of closure of supply line to NATO and US forces present in Afghanistan.
He said that the US is fighting undeclared war against Pakistan, adding that for revelation of the tetails of this war Raymond Davis should be trialed in Pakistan.
In an interview with a private TB channel, Hameed Gul said that in the result of judicial trial everything would be cleared, adding that 1200 American’s like Raymond Davis are working in Pakistan against the sovereignty, and stability of the of Pakistan.
He said that now all the cards are in the hands of Pakistan and US spy agency CIA is helpless, adding that if Pakistan would firmly stand on its point of view on Davis then America have to nee down before Pakistan. He said that it is the old stunt of US to threaten the countries and on any opposition the US leave its stance and reconciliate with that country as it had reconciliated with North Korea, China, Cuba and Iran.
He said that the article of President Asif Ali Zardari, which he had written in US paper Washington Post on Saturday, has sent a good message to US regarding the Raymond issue, adding that sending of this kind of message was very necessary at the crucial moment facing by Pakistan. He said that we don’t want to fight against America but US should have to respect the sovereignty, integrity and law of Pakistan.
He said that there is a story behind Raymond Davis and America want to hide it. He said that the Raymond Davis intentionally murdered two Pakistanis in Lahore but why he did this it is the problem and we will come to know soon about the story after the judicial probe.
He said that in the book of Bob Woodward, Obama’s Wars’ he wrote that there is 3000 Special Missions Force of Obama, I think Raymond Davis is also part of that special mission force. Raymond was at the special mission and may be, he is working against our nuclear program, to create unrest in Pakistan or drone attacks this should be brought in front of nation after the investigations.
He said that why America fighting hidden war in Pakistan this story should be brought in front of nation, adding that the issue of Raymond Davis is not only the issue of the families of victims but it the issue of whole Pakistani nation.
Hameed Gul said that the justice system of Pakistan is same like the US and America should respect the decision of the Pakistani judiciary in Raymond issue.
As we have been putting our heads together in the last couple of posts and comments, we see a strong possibility that something like the following may have happened.
THIS IS PURE CONJECTURE TO GUESS AT WHY RAY DAVIS RESORTED TO MURDER IN BROAD DAYLIGHT:
- That Raymond Davis was not alone in his car...?
- That the people following him were ISI and saw who he was with...?
- That this person was not an American, otherwise Davis could have met with him in secure quarters...?
- And that this person should not have been with Ray Davis...?
- That therefore Ray Davis had to murder the people who saw them together and call for rescue...?
- That the rescue succeeded in getting this person out of the situation...?
- And that Ray Davis sacrificed himself by going in another direction to create a distraction...?
In other developments...
Families 'turn down' settlement offers
Zahra Faizan, the widow of Faizan Haider, told The Express Tribune that she had been contacted by a man who introduced himself as an interpreter for the US consulate. She said the man had urged her to consider a diyat settlement permitted in Islam. She said she had turned down the offer. She said she would wait for the court verdict in the case.ISI redefining terms of engagement with CIA before Davis immunity row settlement
...Imran Haider, Faizan’s brother, said some US consulate officials had wanted to meet him but he had refused to see them. He said he had told them that he was not interested in withdrawing the case. Imran Haider had earlier opened a bank account and made public appeals for donations to help pursue the case against Davis. He had reportedly not taken Zahra into confidence in this regard and had told her to shun media.
Waseem Shamshad, Faheem’s brother, refused to discuss the matter, saying that he would make a decision once a serious offer was made.
According to an official privy to the ongoing negotiations, the Davis issue, although still primary for the US, has been overtaken by other matters pertaining to working of the CIA in Pakistan, the operational freedom the CIA had been enjoying and more specifically its ties with the ISI.
Davis's fate hinges to a large extent on the outcome of this CIA-ISI dialogue, the Dawn quoted a source, as saying.
The ISI believes that the CIA has betrayed it. Although their complex relationship was always marred by mutual distrust, this time the ISI officials look particularly perturbed over the CIA reportedly developing its own network of undeclared spies and disregarding their institution and sacrifices of their colleagues, 300 of whom have been killed during the ongoing war on terror.
...But even as Pakistani officials claim that they were caught unawares about the CIA developing its network of spies and mounting undeclared operations, the Americans insist that Pakistanis were fully aware of the activities that are now being questioned, the report added. However, there were unconfirmed claims that the CIA in its bid to pacify the situation, which is deteriorating fast, has already started withdrawing into its shell by removing some of its men from Pakistan and cutting down on certain questionable activities.
A Pakistani general said the row had definitely impacted the Pak-US military-to-military relationship because the ISI was a services intelligence agency and an extension of military, but on the brighter side, both sides continued to engage each other for resolving their disputes.
A senior American official seconded his view, saying: "We are walking with the pebble in the shoe."
Reading between the lines there, this also points to a much larger context in which the US has betrayed Pakistan... big time.... and has been caught.
US agencies involved in terrorism, subversive activities
The US Consul General being one Carmela Conroy.LAHORE: Jamaat e Islami chief, Syed Munawar Hasan, has said the US agencies were causing suicide attacks through hired people and the CIA and Black Water were involved in terrorism and subversive activities in the country.He has exhorted the army to stop military operation in the tribal areas and start action against the US agencies and the thousands of theirs terrorists. He was addressing a huge JI rally at Multan Road protesting against the possible release and deportation of double-murderer Raymond Davis and to press for the arrest of Ibadur Rahman’s killers.
Announcing that every government effort to free Raymond Davis would be foiled, Syed Munawar Hasan urged the masses to stand by the JI in order to get rid of cowardly and the US puppets ruling the country.
He told the protestors that the JI had set up a legal committee for the registration of a murder case against the US Consul General.
See: looking up the chain of command
Finally, the pressure on the Pakistani military continues to grow. Admiral Mike Mullen, General David Petraeus, General Ashfaq Kayani -- these are the people in negotiations about releasing Davis. Kayani is being pressured.
The downside of US friendship
...The US administration wants Raymond Davis back safe and sound. Gen Kayani’s friends in Washington are now being sternly asked by their political bosses to use all their goodwill in this regard. They are willing to negotiate procedural matters with Pakistan but on the substantive issue of Davis’s immunity they refer to the red line drawn by the US president who called the killer of Pakistani citizens “our diplomat in Pakistan”.
Simply put, the US wants the Pakistan Army and the ISI to shoot the trouble for them.
This places Gen Kayani and his men in an unenviable domestic situation. While the matter of the US spy is in the courts, it has become an open secret that the courts are not the place where his fate shall be decided. Political leadership in Islamabad and Lahore and even foreign service officers state in off-the-record conversations that the final verdict has to come from the Pindi-Aabpara combine — a reference to the military and the ISI headquarters.
...A friendly gesture from Gen Kayani in response to unfriendly actions from Washington — intelligence operations against allies fall in that category — would be tantamount to indirectly endorsing them. No one from the army and the ISI has yet explained to the nation the size of the iceberg of CIA activities in Pakistan, whose small tip is Raymond Davis. Neither has there been any honest assessment of the stark intelligence failure in countering US activities on Pakistani soil. These are hard questions that Gen Kayani is expected to ask of Mullen and Leon Panetta, the CIA director. If he does not, and is seen ‘shooting the trouble’ for Washington he is unlikely to win medals at home. But not delivering is also not an option. A friend in need is a friend indeed is what the Americans are saying. The Pakistan Army high command has to choose its options carefully.
General David Petraeus (R) and Pakistan's Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Kayani, AFP Image
Now we will probably get to see the homogeneous nature of military culture, as described by Kay Griggs. We guess he will cave in and release Davis.
We recall watching a Pakistani military commander during the floods being interviewed on CNN. We were not impressed.
Also, there's a reason why we picked a photo of Kayani with Petraeus.
All the same, we think it is getting harder and harder for the evil to execute their plans. Things keep going wrong. Little Acts of God keep happening.