WHO supports the heavily armed paramilitary groups? Russia? Let's go to the tapes. The pro-Russian supporters are inside the building, unarmed. They are the ones being chased down beaten and murdered.
Murderous lying terrorist slug, with his bulletproof vest and homies around him, lying about being attacked and shot in the leg, in broad daylight, on camera, with cops milling around in the background.
"Another video of the same man shows him speaking on the phone passionately arguing that he and his people are unarmed, while having to confront armed anti-government protesters. The man introduces himself as sotnik Mykola (“sotnik” is what Maidan group leaders in Kiev call themselves) He also says he was wounded in the leg by protesters, although he doesn’t look hurt in the footage."
See their work.
Murderers. Reports are that far more than 42 people were murdered in the House of Trade Unions, and the fires were set to cover up the butchering massacre of unarmed civilians.
The terrible events of May 2 in Odessa were the open manifestation of fascism, but no one has been arrested for the grave crimes, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said during a meeting of the Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe.
"On May 2, in Odessa, unarmed people, including women, were burnt alive in the House of Trade Unions. They opened fire on those, who was trying to save their lives by jumping out of the windows. They were gloating over people's deaths, mocking dead bodies. They were happy about the number of dead bodies. They were not hiding their joy of the victory over Russians. We have witnessed an open manifestations of fascism," the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry said.
"No one of the radical nationalists, who committed the heinous crime, has been arrested. The authorities in Kiev vaguely expressed condolences, declared mourning and filed an investigation. However, few will be surprised if this investigation is shelved, as it happened with the investigation of sniper shootings in the Ukrainian capital in February," Lavrov said. http://english.pravda.ru/news/russia/06-05-2014/127519-odessa_fascism-0/
In the transcript of a brilliant lecture by Andrei Fursov (thanks to James at WPC for posting it), we learn the extent of intelligence agency involvement in the Ukraine, going back decades.
Basically all western intelligence agencies had a free hand in Ukraine. That's why some experts call Ukraine the sandpit of the intelligence agencies. TheCIA has a whole floor dedicated to Ukraine. We got this information now. But those who worked under cover in Ukraine in the late '90s were already reporting that SBU is a subsidiary of the FBI and the CIA, who were actively working there. Likewise the BND (German intelligence) were very actively working with their Banderite underground. And MI6 was working more unnoticed.May 9, this Friday, is an important holiday in Russia: Victory Day. Big parades celebrate the day Nazi Germany capitulated to the Soviet Union. In Kiev, all celebrations have been cancelled. The fascists don't want anyone celebrating victory over fascism. Putin will visit Crimea on May 9, along with Medvedev. (source)
...The next player in Ukraine is Israel, which is represented in Ukraine by Mossad and practically all of the Israeli intelligence services. Including the Komemiyut management, that's an administration within Mossad, whose business is the physical removal of Mossad's opponents. Komemiyut is Hebrew for "sovereignty". This Komemiyut administration, for example, they were the ones who killed the Iranian nuclear scientists. They are very effective, like Mossad generally. Aman is military intelligence service of the Prime Minister. Shabak is the internal security service. Shin Bet, Nativ - they are all present in Ukraine. Israel's current ambassador in Ukraine is Reuven Din El - formerly a Mossad resident in the CIS countries, he was thrown out of Moscow, and then received in Ukraine as ambassador.Vlad Lerner of Nativ is the First Secretary of the Israeli embassy. In this respect you have to give them their dues, the Israeli intelligence services, for how they work in Ukraine. Also important to be clearly aware of - Mossad operates in close contact with CIA and MI6. It's a unified snake of intelligence agencies, which gets the job done.
All of the western intelligence agencies, including Israel's, are very active in the higher education establishments in Ukraine. This year I gave a lecture at the Seliger youth forum. Guys from Kiev told me that in almost all large institutes of higher education in Ukraine, especially in Kiev, there is a NATO room, a NATO department. If you want to make a career, you have to attend several of their programs. That's what's going on. The Anglo-american intelligence services are not falling behind Mossad.
Given what has happened in Odessa, we may expect more violence by the weekend.
Ukraine's SBU plots provocations in Odessa on May 9CIA Director John Brennan visited Kiev in mid-April.
"The head of the SBU department for the Odessa region has received Nalivaichenko’s order to create conditions within days for a special operation to suppress pro-Russian elements in Odessa," the source said.
The SBU is planning to plant its "moles" among the protesters to provoke riots, including on May 9, and to forge evidence of alleged Russian arms supplies through Orthodox churches in the Odessa region, the source said.Once the riots are provoked, the source said, Right Sector militants, posing as outraged city residents, and specially trained riot police will be brought in to quell them.
In an interview aired on Russian state television on Sunday, Yanukovich, who has been in southern Russia since fleeing Ukraine in February, said that Brennan had “sanctioned the use of weapons and provoked bloodshed."
“The US bears its share of responsibility for starting a civil war in Ukraine, not only through diplomatic influence, but its security forces, which do not only meddle, but issue orders,” said the Ukrainian politician.
On Monday, Aleksandr Yakimenko, the head of Ukraine's security service, the SBU, during Yanukovich's term went one step further, and said that his successor, Valentin Nalivaychenko, is a double agent working for the CIA.
"Nalivaychenko was recruited by the US when he was Ukraine's Consul General in Washington [2001-2003]," said Yakimenko, for whom an arrest warrant has been issued in Kiev since he left the country last month, while speaking to Russia's Channel One.
"The US is currently creating a sort of controlled chaos that is helping to blow up the bridges between Russia and Ukraine."
Q: Who does this?
A: Subhuman paramilitary fascist scum on the payroll of intelligence agencies.
Whose intelligence agencies?
TEAM NATO + ISRAEL.
Whose intelligence agencies?
TEAM NATO + ISRAEL.
bad, bad stuff in Odessa
I don't even know what else to say about it
It horrid, atrocious, awful and it's NATO & Israel
The US is still denouncing the referendum in Crimea
Just today I think it was F the EU Nuland saying about an upcoming Putin visit to Crimea
hope he enjoys his visit to Ukraine
What a bitch!
Crimea is not Ukraine or Putin wouldn't even be going
That woman is evil/vile
The US/NATO/Israel hates democracy- and would really rather
every fights so they can do what ever the hell they want to do
And as a Canadian?
I feel ashamed. I don't support it.
Feel as if my tax dollars are being stolen from me to kill other people I have no grievance with
It doesn't make me happy
not one bit
agreed with all your thoughts. how many countries have they done this to just in our years blogging? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Ukraine, plus the subversive conflicts in the African continent, the Philippines, South America... it just goes on and on. it is crime after crime. i don't know what to say either. how dumb can our fellow citizens really be. ?? then they start in with the global warming today. what a distraction. hey i have an idea, how about they stop fucking with the planet, the ecosystem, and every living creature on it and let's see how we go for a change. ?
Good write up. I saw that photo of the woman bent over the desk a couple days ago, among a set of others. How sad and disturbing it is that the media is able to sell the American people on the idea that we are somehow the good guys in this.
What are the red indicators displaying in that photo? It's hard to tell. I saw a power cord and a hardhat, maybe a hammer.
At some point Putin is going to have to respond. Everything I've been reading online regarding this conflict is that Putin is "slow playing" the zionuts, because the West wants him to over-react. (Then que the "SMBD! brigade".
I think the boxes are to highlight the stick on the floor as the only weapon in the room, and the cord used to strangle her. Just really despicable, atrocity.
I agree Putin will have to respond, especially considering that this is going to escalate. They want to draw him in so i dont know how and when he does that. The disclosure of more info like the nuland tapes would be very helpful at this juncture. Pull the mask off and lets have what they say to each other in private.
"I think we can win this"
Swits, where is that from, a strategy game?
When the sick and twisted brutalities of that Odessa fire started hitting the Net, all of sudden some 'al CIA Duh' offshoot in Nigeria kidnaps over 200 girls.
So the American MSM swings into action, focusing on that part of the world.
Not trying to be cynical here, but over the past few decades, the multinational oil companies, along with the corrupted Nigerien government, have been kidnapping, torturing, murdering and stealing a tremendous amount of wealth from the native Nigerians, but for some reason, the majority of the US media looked the other way.
There seems to be an unusual amount of violent craziness going on around the world, which makes me wonder if the USD isn't in deep doo-doo and close to a 'correction?'
excellent observation Greg. i haven't looked into the nigerian kidnapping thing much but i did see that some parents of the girls were able to get into the jungle within a mile of the girls but turned back to get help, and they noted how was it that they were able to track them down but the authorities can't?
it's another psyop just with different paramilitaries on the payroll, and the authorities are so corrupt in nigeria it's no problem to look the other way. a few years back i did a lot of research on nigeria and it is truly horrific how those people have been abused by the oil companies and their cronies.
a comment from dublinmick:
says if she loses elections, ‘third round of revolution will be inevitable-Siberia On Fire
Goldiloks-Timoshenko on elections, ‘third round of revolution will be inevitable if she loses-Siberia On fire-what a surprise-
We are in deep trouble.
I notice deep forest fires are now ongoing in Siberia, what a surprise
Thanks for this. I've been pretty much speechless for the last week following the breath-taking insanity of events and spin.
Extensive coverage here, including translations, and hundreds of intelligent commentary:
thanks bho. i am glad to be of service. i will put the vineyard saker on my rounds. i am familiar but need to visit more often. thanks.
as far as head spinning news, i agree this has been several clicks above the usual depravity. to fill in the picture of brennan and cohorts visiting ukraine just prior and presumably signing off on it...
you know.... if people can just begin to wrap their minds around the truth of who orchestrates these things and how many are the lies they tell on teevee...
Whoa! Some pretty damn good up-to-the-minute live reporting videos with English subs here:
Correspondent following anti-fascist defenders and spokespersons throughout SE, filming and interviewing.
Looks like the sub-humans destroyed most of the ballots and printing presses in Donetsk.
So much for the 'referendum'.
Hey AP, Yes, it was from an old geo-strategic computer game (except the merchant character, obviously.
I'm torn on this video - (short, 2 minutes) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaxsnRqT_xY
"Give me back my pen." heh
Part of me really likes Putin, but the libertarian in me abhors government involvement in private business. But how can I ever feel sympathy for billionaires? Tough nut to crack, this Putin.
Thanks for this. And yes, I now find Saker unmissable. Even prior to this Ukraine stoush his work on Dieudonne, Soral, and their Egalite et Reconciliation was brilliant. Reminds me of you, ha ha. Did you see it? If not, cop this:
Otherwise, and speaking of 'breathtaking insanity', I have a huge collection of saved webpages on my hard drive all of which are taxonomically organised. You know the kind of thing -
And under each of those I have more folders within which are more folders, ad logicam, until every topic has a place and can be found. I'm sure you and the punters here all have something similar.
With that in mind I recently did something quite radical: I made a new category and not well down the line, but right up at the top tier. I called it WWIII.
Is it just me or do we all see it coming? Certainly it's trending heavily on WRH and its linked sites. And Ukraine is definitely the right part of the world just a stone's throw from the Archduke's place, if you know what I mean.
The US and even more crucially the US media is talking this thing up as a big deal (as big as every other military rollout) and yet, unlike all those other times, this is no small crappy little country to be thrown against the wall Michael Ledeen style, this is Russia, the real deal, the nation that can fight back.
I cannot believe that the death cult has miscalculated here. Eventually NATO's westward march would have to provoke Russia into fighting. And of course it was going to be Ukraine. Any further than that and NATO would be in Russia. For mine the US wants a fight with Russia and it does so in the full knowledge of what that means. WWIII. How can it not?
And thinking about it, it was bound to happen sooner or later. What with the global money pyramid scam hitting its endpoint with the new world order in the offing what did we expect? Anyway, this year I reckon.
Well it better otherwise I'm going to look like a complete dickhead. Anything but that! What do you reckon?
Off I go now,
best etc. etc.
In that page I linked to, if you haven't already seen it don't miss out on the youtube vid of the Dieudonne fans shrivelling the testes of the smaller French JDL crowd with a properly martial rendition of La Marsellaise. If you have seen it, watch it again, it's brilliant.
always good to see my favorite pirate. i think you are right about the direction we are headed, and it's only the sheer stupidity that will either get us there or derail the whole thing just in time. i don't know which one, but to quote a line from the saker link you left:
"their country is ruined and they are ruled by an evil foreign occupier"
can we count how many countries this applies to? we have the physically ruined countries of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria over to the morally ruined countries of Europe and the US, and everything in between. the world is a big shitshow and people are starting to twig on.
saker is excellent. i am putting him on the blogroll and there's no comparison to me but you are sweet to imagine such a thing.
so back to wwiii, um yeah, the people in charge are quite insane and for the life of me i don't know why they are all still alive. can't anyone evil choke on a piece of steak or something? some inexplicable butterfly wing event? or failing that, can the russians maybe release more of their nuland-style tapes? anything to put a banana in the tailpipe of the war clowns' jalopy? don't the spooks ever do anything worthwhile with their gadgets, or are they all just good for nothing but evil?
as for the computer, yes mine is the same. thousands of bookmarks and folders, folders within folders of subjects explored. who knows how many links are defunct on my old laptop. it's a museum of artifacts. i am definitely not overly organized but would need a curator to see what's worth saving if i ever get a new machine.
One minor faction of the elite thinks that the main faction of the elite has boobed over the Ukraine, apparently.
That is encouraging... I thnk....
I say AP,
Have you been following the nukes v nano-thermite stink that's been going on between Christopher Bollyn and Jim Fetzer and Gordon Duff over at Veterans Today? I got there via WRH.
You know that line from that Dire Straits song yeah? 'When two men say they're Jesus one of them must be wrong,' to which I say: Huh? Only one of them? Not two?
Anyway, at this point I'm thinking I prefer the Duff/Fetzer line but it's not entirely whiff-free. It has it's own odour. Frankly I think there's a case to be made for the use of nukes and thermite and I'm forced to wonder at the insistence that it can only be one or the other.
It sort of reminds of all those superhero comics that would feature a guest appearance of another hero - ie. Spider-man and the Hulk - where you just knew they were going to fight. In defiance of all logic some mad contrivance would be arranged to ensure that they came to blows. For mine, whatever enjoyment might have been derived from watching Spidey and the Hulk battle each other was always overwhelmed by the dumbness of why they were fighting to begin with. You know what I mean?
Anyway, I'm wondering if this silly Fetzer/Bollyn fight isn't like that? But never mind what I think, you are the chick for this gig AP. You’re across the nuke thing, what do you reckon? How many Jesuses are there? Two? One? None?
This issue see Jesus battle Jesus! “Puny Jesus! Jesus is strongest one there is!” KRANG! THWACK!” etc. etc.
PS. If this comes as news to you drop us a line and I’ll send you all the links.
huh. well no i haven't seen this world wrestling foundation match, so links would be great.
as a general comment it seems clear to me that both could be used and let's say were used, which allows for more confusing evidence, which creates exactly these sorts of time-wasting debates that fetzer in particular specializes in. in a venn diagram kind of way, thermite may account for a small subset of the destruction, but to my understanding only nukes can explain the pyroclastic clouds and the tritium, etc.
as for people like duff, fetzer, bollyn, oh geez. these guys are working a side of the matrix, part of the puritan society angle (newer american money) i guess versus the banksters or the aristocracy (old europe money). i don't know if it's like a rockefeller vs rothschild split or what exactly is the fault line in their power grid, but they are part of the thing that is struggling and will want to retain power in the outcome. i do check VT and so forth, but always with that in mind.
I shan't embed the links, I'll just paste them:
So Fetzer has form does he? To a certain extent I'm no longer up on the intricacies of 911. Honestly, there's too much out there for one to get bogged down in a single event. So... Fetzer, I've heard of him but don't really know who he is. To be honest I found his site impenetrable and that's usually enough for me.
Anyway, see what you think. I guess the question is: is any of this real? Do any of them have a point?Or is it all bullshit?
off again, ciao ciao
ok. well, if you want to know what i think, i think the nuclear theory hangs together pretty damn good. mini-nukes specifically as described at the 911U website and by Don Fox. the links are in my post here:
i really like the 911U site and i highly recommend it to you.
what to make of the dust-up? well, i'm not sure but this is an interesting statement by fetzer to bollyn: "i would have thought you would settle for israel having nuked new york!"
settle??? as in let's make a deal??
sounds like a negotiation between parties on the narrative, doesn't it? how horrific must the truth be if one party is offering to "settle" the narrative on israel nuking nyc? what kind of party would be authorized to make such an offer, and who would be authorized to receive it? quite a thought experiment.
as i wrote in my reality-of-fakery post, it seems to me the main game is micro-managing the dispersal of the truth, controlling the narrative, gatekeeping, and co-opting any researchers who figure things out; or, if they are not vulnerable to co-opting, to wreck their reputations or bury them in the search engines so others don't ever find them.
VT, being a group effort with duff in charge, and a huge readership, is one avenue to corral researchers.
within that VT umbrella you have fetzer. he is like the filibuster guy. his role is to debate endlessly. his comment section is a sitcom. it's the same half dozen people having the same arguments over and over again. inexplicably, none of them ever tire of having the same fights over and over again. inexplicably, fetzer never stops the nonsense. fetzer really likes john friend. you can extrapolate from there.
in the youtube you linked to, duff says that barrett and fetzer get their info from him. well, barrett is a hapless tool imo, who is thrown to the lions from time to time, feebly defending the half-truth and tossing in a few red herrings as he goes down. while fetzer has all the time in the world to talk about the same things over and over and over again: jfk, sandy hook, 911. put it this way, if you wanted to put someone in charge of solving a mystery, and you wanted to take the longest possible time to solve it, and run down every possible permutation and just basically drag the thing out as loooooonnnnnnngggg as possible, fetzer would be an awesome choice. this is a man who loves the sound of his own voice and who uses a sort of naivete that i find completely disingenuous for someone with his knowledge and access, but that's just me. those who use that wholesome "style" kind of flock together and target a certain type of reader.
does duff handle them both? who knows. that wouldn't surprise me. he obviously is a spook with, as he claims, as good access to info as anyone in the world. and he openly claims to write disinfo, and he has some protection, but he can't divulge everything he knows.
that doesn't mean i trust bollyn, because to my understanding he is completely pushing the wrong theory, going backwards not forward. that's not effective. but again, the little 911 kerfuffle between them wastes time, which is always useful, and perhaps the remark by fetzer indicates a negotiation on the narrative that has gone sour or something.
i would guess the mini-nuke theory is *close* to the truth, certainly much closer than nano-thermite, but the full truth of 911 probably involves some nuclear weapons technology that is multiple generations removed from what sites like 911U can limn out from the data, and *that* is the real secret that is being protected.
i presume the real state of technology, in general, will continue to be kept hidden for the final great deception, the alien psyop. john wheeler was made an example of what happens to people who might spill the beans on secret technology. just guessing here.
John Friend is in there? Well, why didn't you say so! That's that dealt with then.
Are they into no-planes there or has John learned to become somewhat less one-note?
Otherwise, apart from the fact that I really couldn't be fagged, it would be a very interesting exercise to read through everything Gordon Duff has written (the position I was once in with Les Visible God help me). But even without that, just in these last couple of pieces of his that I read, I notice he's talking about 'his team', and experts in nuclear weapons, and other such globe-spanning intelligence, and frankly it made my head spin.
Who is this guy? Is he for real? Doubtless there are people out there for whom this kind of stuff would add to his credibility but for me it does the opposite. To me it just screams spook. Or bullshit artist. Or both, ha ha.
I think we should just stick with the old rule - anyone big, anyone famous, anyone making proper money is in all likelihood fake. We need merely see which of the twin pillars of the death cult they always rail at to know that they belong to the other one.
Duff is very anti-Israel yeah? And would I be right in thinking he has nothing to say about the pedophocracy, satanism, and mind control? I know that that's where John Friend is at. And I think we can safely assume Fetzer is the same. I wonder where Bollyn's head is at? That might then tell us the function of this silly argument.
Otherwise I think you're right. I wouldn't get too specific on the nature of technology being covered up here. I think it's enough to say that it's that variety of mind-buggering that makes its covert nature beyond crucial. Given that limited hangout consists of giving away small secrets to cover a big one, I figure that this big secret is of sufficient size to warrant a lot of limited hangout, ie. we'll really want to trust this individual because they're telling us so much stuff. Which is to say 'small stuff', you know what I mean?
Under this rubric it would stand to reason that Duff would give up the traitorous selling of nukes to Israel because that would near-enough explain evidence that would otherwise point to an entire new division of nuclear technology. Can you dig it?
I don't assert this as hardcore truth, merely as likely as any other thing, ha ha.
Oh dear. I meant to drop you a few lines saying 'lovely lovely' and ended up typing a long screed.
off I go now, ciao ciao, etc.
yes, this crowd (VT et al) is openly military intelligence. no secret. Hamid Gul is on their editorial board. the white hat team, for those who believe such a thing exists. so yes, take it from where it comes.
fetzer is retired marines. i don't know what friend is on about anymore but there is a lot of time spent on sandy hook, for instance. "paul is dead" is also another topic they love to bring up -- completely moronic time wasting bullshit that is tolerated and encouraged. other topics: academic freedoms, jfk, 911, and so forth. no pedophocracy, satanism, mind control. no kay griggs. no manas AFB, heroin, C130s.
it's a limited menu with a lot of detail on the offered topics.
"Given that limited hangout consists of giving away small secrets to cover a big one, I figure that this big secret is of sufficient size to warrant a lot of limited hangout, ie. we'll really want to trust this individual because they're telling us so much stuff. Which is to say 'small stuff', you know what I mean?
Under this rubric it would stand to reason that Duff would give up the traitorous selling of nukes to Israel because that would near-enough explain evidence that would otherwise point to an entire new division of nuclear technology. Can you dig it?"
yes. it's something like that.
Paul is dead? Ha ha ha ha. That was the first thing John Friend mentioned after no-planes that first time he popped in to my place. And the rest of the crowd are into it too are they? Groan - more proof if we needed it that a disinfo playbook exists. Perhaps Julian Assange or Edward Snowden will release it soon? Perhaps I should look West each morning to see if the sun rises there? I mean, you never know...
Lovely Lovely etc. etc.
Just dropping by to say I like the new digs
And hello to nobody, somebody, anybody? ;)
not an issue-not worth discussing because planes didn't bring the towers down- they were the magicians diversion- end of discussion
that's how I see it anyway
take care all
AP, hoping you will be belting out another home run soon
btw? did you happen to catch the news, I had up, that the american connection to the alleged VIA train terror plot in Canada that came hot on the heels of the boston bombing just as the tyrannical gov here was pushing through more anti-freedom legislation plead guilty to non terror charges in the US
It was a complete and total frame up- he was groomed by an undercover fbi agent
no sorry i did not see your news yet, so i will stop over in a bit. just another case of state sponsored terrorism hmm? imagine my shock.
i hope to write another post soon but nothing in the works at present. we have a graduation this weekend to get on the other side of first!
for anyone still following the comment thread, and nobody's topic raised, there is an interview where you can hear it all straight from the horse's mouth, that would be g. duff, talking for about two hours and touching on 911, secret nuclear technology, his intelligence connections, bollyn, humans, non-humans, religions, and other matters of interest that for whatever reasons he felt like carrying on about at this time:
he is clearly and openly representing one of the factions, as their spokeman.
I saw this and thought of you. Mind you - you'll have to forgive me - I posted the link over to Aang's first. It's just that I had a window open already you see. Here's what I wrote there:
"I would describe it as a primer that functions as an all-purpose tool for sites-yet-to-be-determined, ie. disinfo qua disinfo, rather than a topic-specific thing listing established strawmen, weakpoints, buzz phrases etc. Which is a shame since it's the latter I'd really like to see.
"The last couple of frames featured seem to take the topic a step further and in doing so defy comprehension at a quick glance. Clearly more study needed but keep your eye out for the phrase 'magic techniques and experiment'. Um... okay, didn't expect that. It's almost enough to make to make you think Aleister Crowley still treads the halls of GCHQ. Or his students at least.
"Then again this is Glenn Greenwald fronting for the Snowden archives. Perhaps it's what they want us to know about? Either way one can't fail to be impressed by Greenwald. He didn't so much as bat an eyelid at the thought of GCHQ training its staff in the use of magic. Nerves of steel obviously. Or a thousand yard stare? Something like that.
"Still, interesting no?
"best etc. etc."
The thing is AP that Aang won't go into it and tear it apart like you might ...were it something that grabbed you, that is. Is it something that grabs you? Be good if it was...
Off I go now
Ok i am working on it.
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